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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 69983@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69983: Use category for display-buffer-alist
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:28:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttjxq31i.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <861q71rhtk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri,  19 Apr 2024 09:24:10 +0300")

>>> >> >> > If we want to enable user control of displaying warnings, we will have
>>> >> >> > to add an option for that, because currently that cannot be
>>> >> >> > controlled.  display-buffer-alist is inappropriate for such control,
>>> >> >> > since in some cases warnings are not displayed in pop-up windows.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Could you show an example when warnings are not displayed in pop-up windows.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The two calls to 'message' there.
>>> >>
>>> >> These calls are irrelevant.  It makes no sense to add an option
>>> >> to display text "at the bottom of 'message'".
>>> >
>>> > Of course.  But what if some user would like to display the warnings
>>> > in the echo-area?  Don't we want to allow such customization?  If we
>>> > do, then display-buffer machinery is not relevant, exactly as it is
>>> > not relevant for those two calls.
>>>
>>> This proves that a new option is not needed.  QED.
>>>
>>> >> >> > Thanks, but what do you mean by "at the bottom"?  Can you describe
>>> >> >> > that place more precisely?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Here is an example:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I understand what this means in the simple cases, but not necessarily
>>> >> > what happens in more complex cases.
>>> >>
>>> >> This case is not simple.  It demonstrates the problem
>>> >> in horizontally split windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> > This is why I asked for a detailed definition of "at bottom".
>>> >>
>>> >> The detailed definition is in the documentation of
>>> >> 'display-buffer-at-bottom'.
>>> >
>>> > I agree that "display at bottom" is a useful feature, but why should
>>> > we decide that users could have no control of that, either?  E.g.,
>>> > another reasonable MO is to split the selected window vertically and
>>> > show the warning in the lower window.
>>>
>>> This is easy to customize with a category in display-buffer-alist.
>>>
>>> > So I think display-warning should have a variable to customize its
>>> > display, and limiting that only to what display-buffer can produce
>>> > doesn't support all the optional behaviors people could reasonably
>>> > want.  Moreover, display-buffer is IMO overly-complex for this simple
>>> > job; a simple variable with several distinct values would do.
>>>
>>> Adding dozens of new variables that replace display-buffer-alist
>>> makes no sense.
>>
>> So we disagree.  I stand by my opinion, and will object to making
>> display-buffer-alist the way of customizing display-warning.
>
> This is not about customizing display-warning.  This is about
> customizing the display of the warning buffer.  When other
> functions such as 'lwarn' and 'warn' display the warning buffer
> the only way to customize the display of the warning buffer
> is display-buffer-alist.

Sorry, actually you are right, let's add a new option.
Will do this soon.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-19  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-24 17:19 bug#69983: Use category for display-buffer-alist Juri Linkov
2024-03-25  9:41 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-25 17:12   ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-26  9:55     ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-27  7:15       ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-28  7:47         ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-28  8:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-28 17:46             ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-28  9:18           ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-28 17:50             ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-29  8:43               ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-29 16:30                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-30  9:36                   ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 18:22                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-02 16:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-04  6:16   ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-05 16:47     ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-06 18:42       ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-07  8:22         ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09  6:30           ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-09  7:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-09 16:34               ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-09 18:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-10  6:45                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-10  8:47                     ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-10 11:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-10 17:49                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-10 18:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-11  6:31                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-11  7:40                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-12  6:37                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-12  7:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-12 16:50                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-12 18:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-13 18:49                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-13 19:03                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-14 16:04                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-18 14:30                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-18 17:16                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-18 17:56                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-19  6:24                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-19  6:28                                                     ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2024-04-19  7:19                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-19 16:17                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-20 12:08                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21  6:52                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-21  9:13                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22  6:50                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-19  7:19                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-11  9:16                       ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-11 11:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 16:46     ` Juri Linkov

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