From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 69983@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69983: Use category for display-buffer-alist
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:28:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttjxq31i.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <861q71rhtk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:24:10 +0300")
>>> >> >> > If we want to enable user control of displaying warnings, we will have
>>> >> >> > to add an option for that, because currently that cannot be
>>> >> >> > controlled. display-buffer-alist is inappropriate for such control,
>>> >> >> > since in some cases warnings are not displayed in pop-up windows.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Could you show an example when warnings are not displayed in pop-up windows.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The two calls to 'message' there.
>>> >>
>>> >> These calls are irrelevant. It makes no sense to add an option
>>> >> to display text "at the bottom of 'message'".
>>> >
>>> > Of course. But what if some user would like to display the warnings
>>> > in the echo-area? Don't we want to allow such customization? If we
>>> > do, then display-buffer machinery is not relevant, exactly as it is
>>> > not relevant for those two calls.
>>>
>>> This proves that a new option is not needed. QED.
>>>
>>> >> >> > Thanks, but what do you mean by "at the bottom"? Can you describe
>>> >> >> > that place more precisely?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Here is an example:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I understand what this means in the simple cases, but not necessarily
>>> >> > what happens in more complex cases.
>>> >>
>>> >> This case is not simple. It demonstrates the problem
>>> >> in horizontally split windows.
>>> >>
>>> >> > This is why I asked for a detailed definition of "at bottom".
>>> >>
>>> >> The detailed definition is in the documentation of
>>> >> 'display-buffer-at-bottom'.
>>> >
>>> > I agree that "display at bottom" is a useful feature, but why should
>>> > we decide that users could have no control of that, either? E.g.,
>>> > another reasonable MO is to split the selected window vertically and
>>> > show the warning in the lower window.
>>>
>>> This is easy to customize with a category in display-buffer-alist.
>>>
>>> > So I think display-warning should have a variable to customize its
>>> > display, and limiting that only to what display-buffer can produce
>>> > doesn't support all the optional behaviors people could reasonably
>>> > want. Moreover, display-buffer is IMO overly-complex for this simple
>>> > job; a simple variable with several distinct values would do.
>>>
>>> Adding dozens of new variables that replace display-buffer-alist
>>> makes no sense.
>>
>> So we disagree. I stand by my opinion, and will object to making
>> display-buffer-alist the way of customizing display-warning.
>
> This is not about customizing display-warning. This is about
> customizing the display of the warning buffer. When other
> functions such as 'lwarn' and 'warn' display the warning buffer
> the only way to customize the display of the warning buffer
> is display-buffer-alist.
Sorry, actually you are right, let's add a new option.
Will do this soon.
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-24 17:19 bug#69983: Use category for display-buffer-alist Juri Linkov
2024-03-25 9:41 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-25 17:12 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-26 9:55 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-27 7:15 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-28 7:47 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-28 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-28 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-28 9:18 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-28 17:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-29 8:43 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-29 16:30 ` Juri Linkov
2024-03-30 9:36 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 18:22 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-02 16:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-04 6:16 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-05 16:47 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-06 18:42 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-07 8:22 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-09 6:30 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-09 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-09 16:34 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-09 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-10 6:45 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-10 8:47 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-10 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-10 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-10 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-11 6:31 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-11 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-12 6:37 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-12 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-12 16:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-12 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-13 18:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-13 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-14 16:04 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-18 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-18 17:16 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-18 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-19 6:24 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-19 6:28 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2024-04-19 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-19 16:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-20 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-21 6:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-21 9:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-22 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-04-19 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-11 9:16 ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-11 11:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-24 16:46 ` Juri Linkov
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