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X-Archive: encrypt In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:06:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.93 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:71956 Archived-At: Dear Eli, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: Sebastien Vauban , 13546-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org >> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:42:18 -0500 >> >> > The messages just say that Emacs is using up a lot of memory for some >> > reason. >> >> Indeed. Most likely the memory is used by C-level objects rather than >> by Elisp objects, but in case these are Elisp objects, you can install >> memory-usage (available from GNU ELPA) and do M-x memory-usage when the >> process's size is suspicious (assuming that at that point Emacs is >> still sufficiently usable to run the above command). > > Since this happens when sending email, i.e. opening network > connections, I suspect that memory might be eaten up by reader threads > we start to support each connection. This is further exacerbated by > the fact that Sebastien uses TLS connections for email, so perhaps > emacs_gnutls_pull is part of the problem. > > Sebastien, if the latest emacs-24 binary still gives you trouble, > please try separate the sub-process and Helm stuff from the email > stuff. That is, start 2 sessions of Emacs: one that uses Helm, but > does not use email, the other that uses email, but not Helm (or > subprocess-related commands in general). I'd like to know whether > none, one, or both of theses sessions will exhibit some abnormal > symptoms after several hours. Very clear mission; and, yes, very important distinctions to be made. I'll report you anything as soon as it happens... Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban