From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sebastien Vauban" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15876: 24.3.50; Highly degraded performance between rev 114715 and 115006 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:05:21 +0100 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <86siuz9u3i.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <867gcdiqji.fsf@somewhere.org> <86fvr09z55.fsf@somewhere.org> <83fvr01du4.fsf@gnu.org> <8638n0nj9p.fsf@somewhere.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384423572 23714 80.91.229.3 (14 Nov 2013 10:06:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15876-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Thu Nov 14 11:06:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VgtoW-0000Jn-Px for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:06:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgtoV-0000ZC-Qw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:06:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60449) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgtoN-0000Z1-5C for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:06:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgtoI-0004Wu-EX for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:06:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37393) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VgtoI-0004Wq-BC for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VgtoH-0004zQ-PW for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:06:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-From: "Sebastien Vauban" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 15876-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org id=B15876.138442354819152 (code B ref 15876); Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:06:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2013 10:05:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vgto4-0004yq-7d for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:05:48 -0500 Original-Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:42138 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vgto2-0004yb-0U for 15876-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 05:05:46 -0500 Original-Received: from MUNDANEUM.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me (unknown [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D2115007CD; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:08:15 +0100 (CET) X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:05:18 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80420 Archived-At: Glenn Morris wrote: > "Sebastien Vauban" wrote: > >> BTW, I was expecting it to be so, as I'm using a Git copy of Org [1] -- this >> was not said in my mail. Hence, if a change in Org was responsible for the >> problem, I *should* have it in both Emacs versions or not at all, no? > > What this for sure would mean is that it is pointless to report it here, > as opposed to the Org list. I know, I just wanted to write that explicitly. The problem is not Org related, even if it's more visible within Org. > Although you originally said: > >> What's become slow: >> - movements (, , etc.) in Org files >> - movements (, , etc.) in mails >> - maybe other stuff (not yet tested) > > I don't see how point 2 can be Org-related. It's not. See a comparative demo when moving point in a *Gnus summary buffer* on http://screencast.com/t/Qr5KxNgCYL. Every movement is much slower there. Though I don't use rev 115085 much because of those problems, I tried to bite the bullet and worked a bit more with it. I can tell you the problem is NOT general. For example, moving point inside a Java buffer is quick, as expected. Currently, I constantly observe the performance problem inside: - Org files, - Gnus summary buffers. I don't observe it in: - Java files, - Gnus group buffer, - Org files (when major mode is changed to `text'). > But then I have no idea what setup you are using. > > If you think Emacs is generally slow, then please post a recipe > starting from emacs -Q that shows the problem, preferably not involving > Org (since it has many moving parts). I'll try to do that later today. But it seems it won't be obvious, as the only spots where I observed them are Org and Gnus, and I guess you'd like not having any of these two enabled in the recipe. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban