From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: philipk@posteo.net
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command
Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 14:04:17 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86seyzi2by.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86v83vi2kr.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 03 May 2024 13:59:00 +0300)
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 13:59:00 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>
> > From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> > Cc: 69097@debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> > Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 10:48:13 +0000
> >
> > > More to the point, can you explain why we need this, given the
> > > existence of kill-word?
> > >
> > > Also, this kills backward, something that is not evident, neither from
> > > the name of the command nor from the doc string (and the obscure
> > > reference to Unix doesn't help, IMO).
> > >
> > > Finally, having another command that kills the region doesn't seem
> > > justified, or is it?
> >
> > The motivation is sort of the same as with generalising `upcase-word' to
> > `upcase-dwim'. If there is no active region, it behaves like
> > `backward-kill-word' (which is what C-w does in a terminal as well), but
> > if there is an active region it reverts to `kill-ring-save'.
>
> If so, then (assuming we decide to accept this change), the name of
> the command should be something like kill-word-dwim, and the doc
> string should mention the two commands you refer to above.
>
> > I have this in my personal configuration for ages, and it is always
> > one of the first things I re-implement when using an Emacs without a
> > custom init.el.
>
> Any reason why you need this command and cannot settle for the two
> commands it replaces heuristically? Are you using Emacs with
> transient-mark-mode on or off?
And one more question: currently C-w signals an error if there's no
region. So another idea is to extend C-w to delete the word at point
if there's no region (where "no region" means "no active region" if
transient-mark-mode is ON, otherwise it means "no mark set").
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-13 9:55 bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-17 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87ttm7gi9i.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-19 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87sf1obkw9.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <871q93rzv8.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-25 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <87frxgn73g.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-27 3:12 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-03 7:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 10:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 11:04 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-05-03 17:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 19:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-04 6:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 6:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 9:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 16:29 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 16:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:59 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 17:08 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 18:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 17:05 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 17:53 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 0:21 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:46 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:51 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 8:47 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07 8:47 ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-01 20:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 6:36 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 11:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-02 18:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-02 18:45 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 20:39 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 20:42 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 20:46 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 21:12 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-03 12:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 13:53 ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-03 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 14:55 ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-03 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 16:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-03 16:47 ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-04 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-04 14:07 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-04 14:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 9:39 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05 9:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 10:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 10:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05 13:27 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-05 14:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-06 10:36 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 11:06 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-06 13:54 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 16:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-07 9:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 10:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-07 21:08 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-07 21:17 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 17:54 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-09 19:48 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 19:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 9:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 11:27 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 13:39 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 14:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 16:10 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 16:26 ` German Pacenza
2024-09-14 16:36 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 21:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 21:22 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-17 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-18 16:08 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-19 7:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-20 16:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-08 10:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:47 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-03 16:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
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