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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: philipk@posteo.net
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command
Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 14:04:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86seyzi2by.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86v83vi2kr.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 03 May 2024 13:59:00 +0300)

> Cc: rms@gnu.org, 69097@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 13:59:00 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> > From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
> > Cc: 69097@debbugs.gnu.org,  Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> > Date: Fri, 03 May 2024 10:48:13 +0000
> > 
> > > More to the point, can you explain why we need this, given the
> > > existence of kill-word?
> > >
> > > Also, this kills backward, something that is not evident, neither from
> > > the name of the command nor from the doc string (and the obscure
> > > reference to Unix doesn't help, IMO).
> > >
> > > Finally, having another command that kills the region doesn't seem
> > > justified, or is it?
> > 
> > The motivation is sort of the same as with generalising `upcase-word' to
> > `upcase-dwim'.  If there is no active region, it behaves like
> > `backward-kill-word' (which is what C-w does in a terminal as well), but
> > if there is an active region it reverts to `kill-ring-save'.
> 
> If so, then (assuming we decide to accept this change), the name of
> the command should be something like kill-word-dwim, and the doc
> string should mention the two commands you refer to above.
> 
> > I have this in my personal configuration for ages, and it is always
> > one of the first things I re-implement when using an Emacs without a
> > custom init.el.
> 
> Any reason why you need this command and cannot settle for the two
> commands it replaces heuristically?  Are you using Emacs with
> transient-mark-mode on or off?

And one more question: currently C-w signals an error if there's no
region.  So another idea is to extend C-w to delete the word at point
if there's no region (where "no region" means "no active region" if
transient-mark-mode is ON, otherwise it means "no mark set").





  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-03 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-13  9:55 bug#69097: [PATCH] Add 'kill-region-or-word' command Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-17  3:53 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]   ` <87ttm7gi9i.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-19  3:44     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <87sf1obkw9.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-23  3:04         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]           ` <871q93rzv8.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-25  3:16             ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]               ` <87frxgn73g.fsf@posteo.net>
2024-02-27  3:12                 ` Richard Stallman
2024-05-03  7:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:40   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 10:48     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 10:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 11:04         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-05-03 17:32           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-03 18:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 19:41               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-04  6:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05  6:53                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05  9:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 16:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 16:54                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:59                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-05 17:08                           ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 18:27                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 17:05                         ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-05 17:13                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-05 17:53                             ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06  0:21                       ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:46                     ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 16:51                       ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-06 17:55                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07  8:47                           ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-07  8:47                             ` Sean Whitton via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-01 20:06                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02  6:36                             ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 11:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-02 18:30                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-09-02 18:45                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 20:39                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 20:42                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 20:45                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-02 20:46                                   ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-02 21:12                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-03 12:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 13:53                                         ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-03 14:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 14:55                                             ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-03 15:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 16:32                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-03 16:47                                           ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-04 11:08                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-04 14:07                                           ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-04 14:21                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05  9:39                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05  9:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 10:02                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05 10:19                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-05 10:23                                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-05 13:27                                               ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-05 14:38                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-06 10:36                                                   ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 11:06                                                     ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 11:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-06 13:54                                                       ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-06 16:32                                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-07  9:52                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-07 10:10                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-07 21:08                                                           ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-07 21:17                                                             ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 17:54                                                               ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 19:03                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-09 19:48                                                                   ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-09 19:23                                                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14  9:12                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 11:27                                                                     ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 13:39                                                                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 14:05                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 14:13                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 14:24                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-14 16:10                                                                             ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 16:26                                                                               ` German Pacenza
2024-09-14 16:36                                                                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-14 21:19                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-14 21:22                                                                                 ` Sean Whitton
2024-09-17 17:58                                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-18 16:08                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-19  7:19                                                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-20  6:50                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-20 16:57                                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-09-08 10:38                                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-05 16:47                   ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-03 16:20         ` Philip Kaludercic

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