From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, mickey@masteringemacs.org,
73404@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 18:59:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86r05h6vsl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874j2dv3x4.fsf@thornhill.no> (message from Theodor Thornhill on Sun, 05 Jan 2025 13:30:31 +0100)
> From: Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>
> Cc: juri@linkov.net, casouri@gmail.com, mickey@masteringemacs.org,
> 73404@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 13:30:31 +0100
>
> > Is this goal achievable in practice, given the sometimes radical
> > differences between languages? Maybe we only can have examples and
> > some dwim-ish behavior in most cases?
>
> I'm not sure if it is achievable or not, but I think it'd be nice to
> avoid any "hand-waviness" to confuse us while we talk about
> sexps/lists/etc. I could try to document thoroughly how lisp-modes and
> cc modes implement these and see if we have some glaring discrepancies
> between just those two?
They are not "discrepancies", and certainly not "glaring", but there
are differences. E.g., in c-ts-mode, we support "lists" enclosed in
(..), {..}, and <..> (but not [..], for some reason). You will not
find anything like that in Lisp-like languages.
So, if we want to have a broader picture, we will need to try more
modes. Can you or someone produce an exhaustive list of all TS modes
we have that implement these movement commands? Then we could try the
commands in each one of those modes and see if there are common
patterns that we can name and describe.
For now, my conclusion was that (almost) every parenthetical grouping
supported by the language grammar can be moved across with these
commands. But I only tried Lisp and c-ts-mode.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-05 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-21 5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26 9:56 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 12:13 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 5:43 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01 3:57 ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02 6:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11 6:31 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 8:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 7:06 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 4:04 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 7:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:18 ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 3:02 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 7:41 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 3:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-27 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 9:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:39 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:34 ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:44 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 8:34 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-27 7:59 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-27 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-29 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 7:15 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 8:00 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-04 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-04 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 11:46 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 12:30 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2025-01-05 18:20 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 17:59 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:50 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 17:40 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:04 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-06 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-07 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 14:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 8:56 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-07 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-08 2:27 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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