From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71934: comp--spill-lap-function and closure (wad: bug#71934: 31.0.50; edebug--called-interactively-skip vs. new fun objects) Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 09:36:20 +0300 Message-ID: <86plrr58nv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zfqwh1gb.fsf@web.de> <86o77c75jd.fsf@gnu.org> <87bk3b8h2n.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26386"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, acorallo@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 71934@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 06 08:37:08 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz2i-0006cd-K6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 08:37:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz2a-0000l8-5u; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:37:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz2Z-0000kw-1b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz2Y-0000FG-PZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:36:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz2c-0000dH-6x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 06:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71934 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 71934-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71934.17202477942384 (code B ref 71934); Sat, 06 Jul 2024 06:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71934) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2024 06:36:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz2A-0000cM-0g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz27-0000c9-W7 for 71934@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:36:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sPz1x-0007SX-PX; Sat, 06 Jul 2024 02:36:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=bb+YWgoQdJIZOZQR+onacXjPCxHcTKMHztdelY8X0Do=; b=eU94vPVl8GVh raRzFtJHf1T8wMxYdfQBHFgQOvFpFkt+52rcufF+t3GFqxuFGbIGJs0B0HLIcrNsCtg9aV/+K1Inb L28jIHhkcC+u/QTGlXAhqBdoepcD9bwcNDJFWp6VIfsTLFMNiZOy1KWMJYPrT4aMby/zGcCiMLZBJ ZRfMZsDOGQ7FeBhy7oSF/aB6r1lkYqQF77PU/8pmDJQKJrpRBMlscLRBqIrkU0bN/2d6VTV3wkVVz MA8sq5hy4fdMsVDydQZ+yQIo1Ia3DUtxenxHXNJTLuYWUmcKlPs8+HF+ibDAdw5YkRi+ojQmmwwcm a6SGuRkUHWyKGUufA1dKIA==; In-Reply-To: <87bk3b8h2n.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 06 Jul 2024 03:06:24 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:288459 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: Stefan Monnier , Andrea Corallo > , Eli Zaretskii , 71934@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 03:06:24 +0200 > > Alan Mackenzie writes: > > > > > All very clever arguments, no doubt, but in the end it means you > > > > cannot native compile foo. > > > > > To obey the docstring, .... > > > > Forget that doc string, just do what is right, expected, and convenient > > for Emacs users, and adjust the doc string afterwards. > > We are actually trying to do that, but we don't understand the code > because of the lacking or wrong documentation. I don't understand this difficulty. Andrea, who wrote that function (and everything around it) is here, and is very helpful. How come this lack of understanding, let alone lack of documentation, is still with us?