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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Kai Ma <justksqsf@gmail.com>
Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, alan@idiocy.org,
	71454@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#71454: 30.0.50; Performance issues with font selection
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 13:29:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86o7498k5i.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88D40848-CC43-4397-81EA-4BBB4B2EAC30@gmail.com> (message from Kai Ma on Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:51:06 +0200)

> From: Kai Ma <justksqsf@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:51:06 +0200
> Cc: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>,
>  Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
>  Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>,
>  71454@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>  This part, about _any_ unusual characters causing a significant delay,
>  seems to imply that the default fontset is not set up correctly on
>  your system (or maybe in general on macOS), or perhaps that the way
>  the fontsets are used on macOS is very different from other systems.
>  For starters, are the fonts that Emacs selects for the characters you
>  used for testing different from the fonts defined by fontset-default
>  for those characters?  If so, what happens if you modify
>  fontset-default (using set-fontset-font) to specify for these
>  characters the same fonts as what Emacs selects with the default value
>  of fontset-default? does font selection become much faster (it
>  should)?
> 
> Yes, if I manually set the font, it becomes instant.

Thanks, so it means finding a font that matches the default font's
spec is indeed slow on your system.

I wonder if this is a general issue with macOS, or just with the
version and/or configuration you are running.

>  It could also be the matter of selecting the default face's font.  For
>  best results, it should be a font that covers many popular scripts, at
>  the very least Latin, Cyrillic, and Greek.  Judging by the "unusual"
>  characters you show, it sounds like Latin characters are not well
>  covered by your default face's font?  If so, perhaps choosing a font
>  with better coverage will make the situation better for you?
> 
> It would not eliminate the problem though.

I didn't mean that it will.  However, being able to display more
characters without delays is a Good Thing regardless.

> Based on the profiling, my guess is that CTFontDescriptorCreateMatchingFontDescriptors is doing a linear
> search internally (it probably didn’t just pick the specified by the font family?), so macfont_list is accidentally O
> (n^2).  This (if true) should explain why it’s so slow.

Yes, you said that in your original report.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-27 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-09 18:56 bug#71454: 30.0.50; Performance issues with font selection Kai Ma
2024-06-09 22:10 ` Jeremy Bryant via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-09 22:17   ` Kai Ma
2024-06-09 22:34     ` Jeremy Bryant via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-10  2:14       ` Kai Ma
2024-06-10 12:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-09 23:10     ` Jim Porter
2024-06-10  2:18       ` Kai Ma
2024-06-10 11:53         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 16:31           ` Jim Porter
2024-06-10 17:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 11:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 12:35       ` Kai Ma
2024-06-10 12:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 16:42           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-10 17:36             ` Kai Ma
2024-06-10 18:05               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-06-10 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-10 12:34   ` Kai Ma
2024-06-10 13:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <22612F93-FC37-48E8-8137-E9FF6F5B3A0D@gmail.com>
2024-09-27  6:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27  7:51     ` Kai Ma
2024-09-27 10:29       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-09-28  3:36     ` Gerd Möllmann

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