From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#73709: 29.4; Doc of `file-newer-than-file-p' Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 17:51:52 +0300 Message-ID: <86o73lqv07.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86h69msbhi.fsf@gnu.org> <87set6aytj.fsf@web.de> <864j5l4d2x.fsf@gnu.org> <87v7y0kgl7.fsf@web.de> <861q0o2xbe.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyk7trma.fsf@web.de> <86y12vyygh.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzee88m9.fsf@web.de> <86ttdhyarp.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzed6iql.fsf@web.de> <867cacvb3k.fsf@gnu.org> <86h69gt3xt.fsf@gnu.org> <87msj6tbkv.fsf@web.de> <86ttddqy1w.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31087"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 73709@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 15 16:52:57 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t0iuu-0007ta-Jz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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You are missing the point of my post. The point was not to say this should be in the doc string, the point was to explain why "time of the last write" is still not accurate in some quite widespread cases. The low-level details were meant to explain the subtleties, so that if someone has ideas how to describe that _without_ getting into details, but also without being inaccurate, could understand the problem to solve.