From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sebastien Vauban" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13566: 24.1; Too easy to forget things with remember Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 16:57:45 +0200 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <86mwrxk3rq.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <87vcai5xp0.fsf@sc3d.org> <764ne680tf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <86hai53dce.fsf@somewhere.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368546487 17561 80.91.229.3 (14 May 2013 15:48:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13566-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Tue May 14 17:48:06 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHSO-0005NA-Uw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 17:48:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44030 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHSO-00055S-Hy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHRw-0004Cn-8A for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHRp-00023u-P2 for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36093) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHRp-00023q-Lh for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:47:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHSM-0007in-JU for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-From: "Sebastien Vauban" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13566 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13566-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org id=B13566.136854647629657 (code B ref 13566); Tue, 14 May 2013 15:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2013 15:47:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcHSD-0007iD-82 for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 11:47:54 -0400 Original-Received: from 81-188-7-133.sdsl.easynet.be ([81.188.7.133]:56381 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcGgb-0005h4-B4 for 13566-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 10:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from MUNDANEUM. 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X-Archive: encrypt In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Tue, 14 May 2013 14:27:48 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3 (windows-nt) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 14 May 2013 11:47:48 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74241 Archived-At: Reuben Thomas wrote: > On 14 May 2013 14:22, Sebastien Vauban wrote: >> Reuben Thomas wrote: >>> On 14 May 2013 08:42, Glenn Morris wrote: >>>> Reuben Thomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> The *Remember* buffer, as a non-file-visiting buffer, does not cause a >>>>> prompt when you kill it or exit Emacs with the contents unsaved. This is >>>>> unfortunate: I just lost 15 minutes' work when I hit C-x C-c in >>>>> remember-mode by mistake instead of C-c C-c. >>>>> >>>>> I can fix this particular problem by adding >>>>> >>>>> (lambda nil (setq buffer-offer-save t)) >>>>> >>>>> to remember-mode-hook, but shouldn't this be the default behavior? >>>> >>>> Sounds right, please apply. >>>> Or maybe (I don't use remember) you want to add remember-finalize to >>>> kill-emacs-hook or kill-emacs-query-functions. >>> >>> It seems to me that it's more consistent to make Emacs prompt to save the >>> remember buffer, as it does for other unsaved buffers (the alternative >>> suggested here would make Emacs silently save the remember buffer if >>> exited), but I'd appreciate some guidance. >> >> Please note that `remember' has been replaced by `org-capture', at least if >> we speak of the same... > > I think you mean "superseded", not "replaced": Yes, you're right. > remember.el is still in Emacs bazaar. Yes, I'm aware of it, but presumably > as long as remember.el is still included with Emacs it's acceptable to fix > bugs in it? And since org-capture is not, as far as I know, based on > remember, there is no reason to suspect that bugs in remember will be > mirrored in org-capture? I just wanted to direct you toward a better and more recent implementation. But, sure, if you use the other one, and it's buggy, it should be fixed, as long it's still around, in the official code base. Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban