From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70402: 29.3; Error in "(emacs)Package Installation" description. Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:24:01 +0300 Message-ID: <86mspujupa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bk6ao3cy.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37778"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 70402@debbugs.gnu.org To: tpeplt Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 15 21:25:07 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwv-0009XB-MF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 21:25:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwj-0008ER-Kf; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwh-0008E5-US for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:52 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwh-0008An-Lc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwt-0005Mg-FQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:25:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:25:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70402 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 70402-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70402.171320906620333 (code B ref 70402); Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:25:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70402) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2024 19:24:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39126 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwG-0005HV-Tv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39424) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRwE-0005GQ-Cz for 70402@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rwRvx-0007pH-6t; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:24:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=Ix/F1SUY0dUA/AUIGRMdsxCn0MREvnLdQcwP6xcKRnc=; b=T8QX5YkTB7C9rcwS1Q/D QaPod3Z1avzpqMaTK78np9UTORDvG0X1hiN5XgiK4PvHJAUfLgTB4+aZjHaUW4P8VGkOp1LE7POVK AA5qvhnKgnXyZATIQsMWcju26fI1Seyl0eTaffcbGxocsNSwqBkbz4Gu37WHRjIKvp3r8eAJavuvu 1TL7vHFfrXJ6S5ZRwp1U14+ShE3Oqbc+gB5uwwdnwZs5EsgNgr2J8O574Q7QddRcZ7wNV1kf3I9I/ /10VTzrHBdwUxH1yZSueYRM8h6gpUUYz6viEAsYcYOD9Hx1PiDUhb24IQgurFkKEG8R+0AR8tDUyG 87pHOp6qUIjGNA==; In-Reply-To: <87bk6ao3cy.fsf@gmail.com> (message from tpeplt on Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:03:25 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283395 Archived-At: > From: tpeplt > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 15:03:25 -0400 > > In the Info node for the Emacs user manual "(emacs) Package > Installation", there is the following paragraph: > > "To keep Emacs from automatically making packages available at > startup, change the variable ‘package-enable-at-startup’ to ‘nil’. You > must do this in the early init file, as the variable is read before > loading the regular init file. Currently this variable cannot be set > via Customize." > > The final sentence in this paragraph says that > ‘package-enable-at-startup’ cannot be set via Customize, but it is > possible in Emacs 29.3 to set that variable via Customize. Type the > following: > > M-x customize-option RET > Customize variable: package-enable-at-startup RET > > After this sequence, the buffer "*Customize Option: Package Enable At > Startup*" is displayed, which according to the Emacs user manual should > not be possible. I think you misunderstand what the manual attempts to convey: that customizing this variable will not have the desired effect, because it must be set before reading the init file.