From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52384: [External] : bug#52384: 26.3; dired buffer navigation tweak Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 22:10:40 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86lf0ph9m3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <69e7c202-8ad6-46c7-800a-f54f0b314d61@provide.net> <86y24rlylf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86zgp68c8j.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86czm1k65h.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29256"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Michael Perry , Stefan Kangas , Arthur Miller , "52384@debbugs.gnu.org" <52384@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 12 21:21:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVLK-0007Pl-4u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 21:21:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38564 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVLI-00068O-8i for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:21:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVLC-00068E-Mz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVLC-00034g-9c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:21:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVLC-0002PT-5X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:21:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52384 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 52384-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52384.16393404609236 (code B ref 52384); Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52384) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2021 20:21:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVLA-0002Ou-HK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:21:00 -0500 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:43683) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwVL9-0002Of-4p for 52384@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 15:20:59 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1205B60006; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 20:20:50 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 12 Dec 2021 19:45:19 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:222265 Archived-At: >> > This is that thread: >> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg01976.html >> > >> > Checking your and my posts (and others) in that >> > thread, I find nothing about any of this. Could >> > you point to the message(s) you're referring to? >> > A URL would be good. >> >> Strange, I have a message in the archive from 24 Sep, >> but it doesn't exist on the thread that you posted. > > Could you please post the URL to that message, > whatever thread it might be in? Maybe this? I'm not sure. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg02142.html >> > More importantly, `<' and `>' going to the first >> > and last file, respectively, has nothing to do with >> > wraparound. So if that's what you suggested or >> > implemented, it's something else entirely. >> >> I suggested to use TAB that goes to the next file >> and wraps around at boundaries. Then '>' could be >> reused to go to the last file. > > I see. Apparently I didn't see or notice your > suggestion. > >> Maybe then like there is a user option `ls-lisp-dirs-first' >> for ls-lisp.el, a similar option should be added to dired as well, >> so users won't need to manually add "--group-directories-first" >> to `dired-listing-switches'. Do you agree? > > That's kinda outside the scope of this bug thread. > But yes, FWIW I agree: I think such an option > would make sense. > > (Not that my opinion would make any difference.) > > Probably `ls-lisp-dirs-first' should take precedence, > however, as someone might well want dirs-first only > on MS Windows (or more generally, when `ls-lisp.el' > is loaded).