From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60587: Patch for adding links to symbols' help documentation Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 21:27:46 +0100 Message-ID: <86lelvvdj1.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> References: <86y1qgr1bf.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <86tu13qydg.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83h6x2u74b.fsf@gnu.org> <863588rfos.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <83o7qw0yjy.fsf@gnu.org> <864jskx6a8.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> <831qnomh6l.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35135"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 60587@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 21 21:28:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKTP-0008t4-To for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 21:28:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKT5-0008Pm-Gv; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 15:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKT4-0008PY-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 15:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKT4-0007hf-EW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 15:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKT4-0006RA-A6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 15:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 20:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60587 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 60587-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60587.167433287924728 (code B ref 60587); Sat, 21 Jan 2023 20:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60587) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2023 20:27:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKT1-0006Ql-5Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 15:27:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.74]:50957) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pJKSz-0006QZ-DG for 60587@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 15:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from ping ([109.250.147.186]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N1xZX-1oZVBS3vTN-012EIO; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 21:27:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <831qnomh6l.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 21 Jan 2023 10:21:22 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3zs1pA3xxWJV/PjwKseMDuNchMPWkcdY5eB/MQjPY//hCp4zYRZ S8xgIZyqptDxaxo4VgW4IE3kakkhyylTh30JoLZNvMzsq/spULmZXREAoK/DnlALWe+LwpC kOAEkzqLO0uDd8h1oC6h7bcxiZ/zWnDWcH5uq1WyPFTh6YE+954F7/cJ6jCBwd3WN+2eYR9 AZHlNSDarn2xWaHaGyjNA== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:51IddVEd0MQ=;opBm2fEhEZ1iUqzRisEt/NL9wCf Sw/1K5/W+pfJBkiUfRx/MEjdkcGj7Cg9Jtrj0dTjPfJ5L+VUF7eKfpWNjyXAXqSQIttyjP3cL dDUXI7MNqKNQs1ISBR9YWlTMuRbycPlxqhTFPTFLn3XogRRnMyGGwVtj7Me77ISegYn0eFtue K/rN986bwwrPANgV20cFaNlLM77iGIoiL5KwGOpnnsK2GK6ne4gFKUXiX9KA8AcUmNTbT6aWI Hx9NCtpiD+s6P6nLNNNm8w47/8dkxJ8UoVE3P+gndRFcU7As9gXWCe6qMHU5dzbo5AUYMq8kz MRM9S/SurGsB7iOPw52dBBYb5gq60oj06HE3Ww09GyvLOfvLYIkCLjtXMkE3nxLX6e2mpxvXE /Nz9FwFI54b5DWEDKHtPc/WZnGCnujAeV1AH6cI0pJm3CEXffZkVRxOIIoxnUqJIylM/yQ+w+ 1UEzLyu6Pdsbv82pEXQFx5aefrCoSSAf4t7MZLDqORTu/tbV7+oMkIPYWjRwf2C4iqQcBp/cs cEGTrhlfuSqrcM7TXK2dB8u0pnAirJxBfV//26cdKY4w0oU+2FWI52cgBWb6SeF+vvHZuMruX mWjwj1KyJZOD/QSxOLWln7Pp6UD0iugpaywRCO7NGdsmKj7BAWmYBADBnx9yg+iksElizYn38 PIo9M/K3XqcrBl48YajU8I/wuKUzkOBzv5tIOHfXYw== X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:253889 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Unfortunately I also need to investigate the code anew. Yesterday I >> realised a regression starting with Emacs-29! `Tab' and `S-Tab' aren't >> working any longer for Info references. (E.g. the `Tab' keybinding is >> switched from `Info-next-reference' to `forward-button'..) > > So I guess you will be submitting a new patch soon? Yes, I hope with the help of Stefan's crystal .., ahem promising hint, soon. >> --- a/doc/emacs/help.texi >> +++ b/doc/emacs/help.texi >> ... > I think the first sentence should be rewritten as describing a > separate feature, not "the same as" something else. Just say that > symbols are converted into buttons that lead to their doc strings. That's clearer, I'll do that. Shouldn't I address the concern of Drew, as well? That a "button" is a certain technical implementation of linking which might not be known by the reader. Maybe a term like "link button" or "link-button" conveys - at the same time - the well known concept and correct technique, different from an Info link (or "cross reference")? > Also, the option which controls this should be mentioned and indexed. Ah, of course! Thanks for your suggestions -- Best wishes H. Dieter Wilhelm Zwingenberg, Germany