From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:42:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86ldwfplro.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8634iszpa5.fsf@gnu.org> <86y10ky9wf.fsf@gnu.org> <86wmg4xd2u.fsf@gnu.org> <86y10jwmsb.fsf@gnu.org> <86ldwiwvjc.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23939"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jared@finder.org, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org, fgunbin@fastmail.fm, shipmints@gmail.com To: Gerd =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 16 18:43:19 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tNF7m-00066c-OQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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It makes the menu > bar usable, or in a future Emacs containing tty child frames tooltips > can be shown. Not to mention setting point and what else. I agree that mouse support is an important feature -- if it works well and doesn't cause regressions. Here it seems like at least some people could see some breakage. It is easy to turn on xterm-mouse-mode for those who want it and don't get anything broken due to it. Turning it on by default is only TRT if there are no significant downsides. IOW, we shouldn't force users to turn off some feature that is turned on by default because the default doesn't work or breaks something. So I still think it is safer to turn this off on Terminal.app, if we can detect it.