From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52973: Adding a few context-menu-mode commands Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:41:04 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86k0f4rbcf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87o84tp69h.fsf@posteo.net> <868rvwsezi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87czl75lyz.fsf@posteo.net> <86czl6au29.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <874k6idjod.fsf@posteo.net> <86o84pthgp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87pmp4lmfz.fsf@posteo.net> <86pmp41vby.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czl47ghd.fsf@gnu.org> <86ee5kzjo2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83bl0o6oei.fsf@gnu.org> <87iluwkkyn.fsf@posteo.net> <83k0fc54bd.fsf@gnu.org> <86bl0m13o1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87czkxbhsb.fsf@gnus.org> <83sftt5c99.fsf@gnu.org> <86ilupt0d1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <838rvk6em4.fsf@gnu.org> <86tue8rfug.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834k6869gl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32521"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 52973@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 20:46:44 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7ja0-0008J0-Au for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:46:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40940 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZy-0005ej-ST for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZK-0005bW-SI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38051) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZK-0005HC-DN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZK-0004SJ-BI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52973 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 52973-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52973.164201675717093 (code B ref 52973); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 19:45:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZE-0004Rd-Qw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:45:57 -0500 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:41289) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZC-0004RL-UI for 52973@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:45:55 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E811E240004; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:45:46 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <834k6869gl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:27:22 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224035 Archived-At: >> > But then you say that this item is mostly useless and shouldn't be in >> > the context menu by default? That sounds like a contradiction of the >> > success story with which you started, where the existence of the menu >> > item is a win, isn't it? >> >> It's useless for most users, so it's not suitable to be enabled by default. >> Only a minority of users might want to customize and add it. >> >> > And then this conclusion: >> > >> >> But when a user can tolerate this mostly useless menu item, >> >> then the user could customize the context-menu-functions >> >> and add the item that is used occasionally. >> > >> > How would the user decide whether he can tolerate this mostly useless >> > menu item? And why should this burden be on the user's shoulders? >> >> This is suitable for users that consult man pages often, >> or users can add the "Open man page" item buffer-locally >> in some modes. > > A menu item that is not used does no special harm. So why not have > these items in the menus by default? Adding all these items by default will load all these packages by default, including man.el, hi-lock.el, etc.