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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
Cc: acm@muc.de, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer`
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:44:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86jzd2we9h.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46a8bf630b89755bd6edc1521390352ecc176881.camel@yandex.ru> (message from Konstantin Kharlamov on Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:54:48 +0300)

> From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
> Cc: acm@muc.de, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 01:54:48 +0300
> 
> > It's impractical, because we have many files with macros.  Tracking
> > all of those dependencies would mean that changes in any file will
> > trigger unnecessary recompilation of many other files.  If you don't
> > mind spending that time waiting for the build, just "make bootstrap"
> > every time you update from Git, and you will have that.
> 
> Unless I'm missing something, the problem seems to be with one exact
> file, macroexpand.elc, and not with others.

No, that's not true.  I had similar problems with basically all the
files in COMPILE_FIRST.

More importantly, what you seem to be missing is that we deliberately
play with the time stamps of the *.elc files in COMPILE_FIRST (search
for "UTC" in the Makefile), so we must not use load-prefer-newer in
this case.  That is the reason why it's removed from
BYTE_COMPILE_FLAGS.

> So the algorithm is simple: if `macroexpand.el` was modified, remove
> its elc file. You don't need to track any dependencies.

How will load-prefer-newer help if this is what you do?  That's the
trigger for this bug report, no?

In any case, this is not the reason why load-prefer-newer is removed
while we COMPILE_FIRST; see above.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-17  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-16 15:11 bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 16:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-16 17:45   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 18:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 18:43       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 20:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 22:54           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17  6:44             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-17 15:31               ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17  7:25     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-17 15:21       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:04               ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 16:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:46                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 17:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 17:24                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18  4:06                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-18  6:19                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 10:05                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 12:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-18 13:12                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 13:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43         ` Gerd Möllmann

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