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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, jm@pub.pink, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	75017@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#75017: 31.0.50; Untrusted user lisp files
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 16:29:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ikra4gmy.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmyqFoZ1b44asf+kRJXo3fxHoH+Aqj+kgB93N=DiHbhZg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:10:30 +0000)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 14:10:30 +0000
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, jm@pub.pink, 75017@debbugs.gnu.org, 
> 	acorallo@gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > So if such a file somehow materializes there, I want to know, pronto.
> 
> First, I note that it's likely already game over if an attacker can
> write to `site-init-file`, because they can then just as easily write to
> your init file (or other relevant files in `load-path`) instead.
> 
> But to do what you suggest, we would need to start with deciding under
> what circumstances it is not expected to find a file in this location,
> and then not just warn but refuse to load it if it meets that criteria.
> I don't know how to design such criteria.
> 
> If we can figure out a way to do that, then I agree that it would be
> consistent not to treat this file as `trusted-content-p`, when it exists
> unexpectedly.

I think this is over-engineering.  Yes, there are situations where it
makes sense to trust site-init-file.  No, they are not 100% of the
possible situations.  Which in my book means we should leave it to
users to decide whether to trust that file or not.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-23 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-21 20:48 bug#75017: 31.0.50; Untrusted user lisp files john muhl
2024-12-22  2:47 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22  3:16   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-22  6:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 17:36       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22 18:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 18:47           ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-23 14:10           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-23 14:29             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-24  0:35               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-24 12:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 19:15             ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-22  6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 17:20   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22 18:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 19:52       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-22 20:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 20:27           ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]             ` <865xna60oj.fsf@gnu.org>
2024-12-23 14:36               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-24 23:29               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-23  0:32   ` john muhl
     [not found]     ` <86v7va4kj6.fsf@gnu.org>
2024-12-23 17:53       ` john muhl
2024-12-24  5:48       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-24 23:58         ` Stefan Kangas

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