From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#75448: [PATCH] Fix documentation of Iroquoian input methods Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 08:18:33 +0200 Message-ID: <86ikqo33ye.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87cygwom6n.fsf@fernseed.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29992"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 75448@debbugs.gnu.org To: Kierin Bell Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 09 07:19:42 2025 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tVltO-0007db-98 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 07:19:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVlsn-0007ea-KS; 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Thu, 09 Jan 2025 01:18:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVlsK-0008Vw-Vm; Thu, 09 Jan 2025 01:18:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=9FEpKESnTTZkJJEB2BssWuhLOoqgnmg/3GGlPcO/iNY=; b=m80lrShruwG5WftN3mUb lhzndfqmEOCiDJJ30/SenP7olUF4Km0cSPT4sYyFpVjoj8j0KSaBLdTtPFlmWrGhzMGrl1LUh0hnK ESAjuL3ba81q0jCXySKQweEFEWbVTxUCM91du7tS6qPoA+Bb9v97ghUIW2r49uHDI7q+PMiKz23Ld dm93B2VAyypiOGQXHTgbBrC4RphtLyoV0RbsS506Edp4ex1nHBEck/nz/Qi+WMdn0kC4BCXWbugxX GmwfXiLmYlmDnHm7L8bDoJIqGyVibTmR4QweI+MRL2V5VFUBd6tlQjXrruTVGm+muQ57g77gG8KjA SR8AOIzIg0bVMg==; In-Reply-To: <87cygwom6n.fsf@fernseed.me> (message from Kierin Bell on Wed, 08 Jan 2025 19:39:12 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:298803 Archived-At: > From: Kierin Bell > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 19:39:12 -0500 > > This patch fixes a typo in the documentation for Iroquoian input methods > for the Oneida endonym, propagated by copy-paste into comments, > docstrings, and the NEWS entry. The previous spelling 'Onʌyota:ká:' was > missing the third syllable and also used an idiosyncratic orthography. > There are two common orthographic variants that I've seen: > 'Onʌyote’a·ká·' (common in community language programs) and > 'Onyotaˀa·ká·' (used in Karin Michelson's 2002 > 'Oneida-English/English-Oneida Dictionary'). I opted for the former. Since these are very delicate matters, I'd like us to go by the orthography that is really widely accepted. In Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_language), I see "onʌjotaʔaːka" and "onʌjoteʔaːkaː", which is different from what you show. I wonder what should we use, given so many different variants. > There is also a small fix for an incorrect input key given in one of the > input method docstrings. I agree that factually the input method behaves as you describe in your patch, but is it not more reasonable to change the code to behave as the documentation says? Why should '-' after 'n' produce ñ? It sounds like using '~' for that is better mnemonically? Thanks.