* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
@ 2024-12-20 15:44 Fran Burstall
2024-12-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Fran Burstall @ 2024-12-20 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 74995
According to the NEWS, there are new functions
shortdoc-function-examples
shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
and a suggestion to
(add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
#'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
package is loaded.
Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?
Thanks,
---Fran
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* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
2024-12-20 15:44 bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded Fran Burstall
@ 2024-12-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-20 17:08 ` Fran Burstall (Gmail)
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-20 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fran Burstall; +Cc: 74995
> From: Fran Burstall <fran.burstall@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:44:25 +0000
>
>
> According to the NEWS, there are new functions
>
> shortdoc-function-examples
> shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
>
> and a suggestion to
>
> (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
> #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
>
> However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
> package is loaded.
>
> Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?
I started "emacs -Q", inserted
(add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
#'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
into *scratch*, evaluated it, then typed "C-h f string-replace RET"
and got a *Help* buffer with an example of using string-replace. So
I'm not sure why you say we need autoload cookies, since the advice in
NEWS seems to work OOTB. What did I miss?
Thanks.
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* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
2024-12-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-20 17:08 ` Fran Burstall (Gmail)
2024-12-20 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Fran Burstall (Gmail) @ 2024-12-20 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74995
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Sorry. It seems that things are slightly more complicated. I get the same
as you from emacs -Q.
To get what I saw, from emacs -Q, put
(require 'help-fns) ; something I load, loads this.
(add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
#'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
into *scratch* and evaluate both forms. Now doing "C-h append RET" causes:
help-fns--run-describe-functions: Symbol’s function definition is void:
shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
Thanks,
---Fran
On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 15:56, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Fran Burstall <fran.burstall@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:44:25 +0000
> >
> >
> > According to the NEWS, there are new functions
> >
> > shortdoc-function-examples
> > shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
> >
> > and a suggestion to
> >
> > (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
> > #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
> >
> > However, neither function is available until the shortdoc
> > package is loaded.
> >
> > Perhaps a couple of autoload cookies are needed here?
>
> I started "emacs -Q", inserted
>
> (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
> #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
>
> into *scratch*, evaluated it, then typed "C-h f string-replace RET"
> and got a *Help* buffer with an example of using string-replace. So
> I'm not sure why you say we need autoload cookies, since the advice in
> NEWS seems to work OOTB. What did I miss?
>
> Thanks.
>
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* bug#74995: 30.0.93; shortdoc-function-examples not autoloaded
2024-12-20 17:08 ` Fran Burstall (Gmail)
@ 2024-12-20 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-20 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: fran.burstall; +Cc: 74995
> From: "Fran Burstall (Gmail)" <fran.burstall@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 17:08:34 +0000
> Cc: 74995@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Sorry. It seems that things are slightly more complicated. I get the same as you from emacs -Q.
>
> To get what I saw, from emacs -Q, put
>
> (require 'help-fns) ; something I load, loads this.
>
> (add-hook 'help-fns-describe-function-functions
> #'shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function)
>
> into *scratch* and evaluate both forms. Now doing "C-h append RET" causes:
>
> help-fns--run-describe-functions: Symbol’s function definition is void: shortdoc-help-fns-examples-function
Thanks, should be fixed now on the emacs-30 branch.
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