From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57082: 29.0.50; emacs-news-view-mode breakage Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 11:07:14 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86fsi4cyhd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87zggdxuf0.fsf@gmx.net> <874jylwa17.fsf@gnus.org> <865yj1p6o2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87v8r1xj9u.fsf@gmx.net> <87zggcwn0n.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37375"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Jim Porter , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 57082@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 10 10:10:42 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgnZ-0009Zs-Et for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:10:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37714 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgnY-0006kA-Go for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:10:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgmx-0006j2-HK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:10:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56195) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgmw-0007Xl-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgmw-00074a-71 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:10:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 57082 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 57082-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B57082.166011899927175 (code B ref 57082); Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 57082) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2022 08:09:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgmt-00074F-0w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:09:59 -0400 Original-Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:59715) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oLgmr-000742-9t for 57082@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:09:57 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D714100003; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:09:47 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87zggcwn0n.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Wed, 10 Aug 2022 09:55:36 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:239249 Archived-At: >> I think that's wrong, yes. Every GUI I'm familiar with does it the other way: >> >> > Closed Item >> v Open Item >> > Closed Sub Item >> >> This is the visual style used in GNOME (at least, the theme I'm using), MS >> Windows, macOS, Firefox/Thunderbird, and probably others. More importantly, >> it's also the style Emacs already uses elsewhere: see the Customize UI. > > Ah, of course, I didn't even think to look there (oops again). > > diff --git a/lisp/outline.el b/lisp/outline.el > index 7750f9a75d..8132043097 100644 > --- a/lisp/outline.el > +++ b/lisp/outline.el > @@ -294,16 +294,16 @@ outline-minor-mode-use-buttons > :version "29.1") > > (define-icon outline-open button > - '((emoji "▶️") > - (symbol " ⯈ ") > + '((emoji "🔽") > + (symbol " ⯆ ") > (text " open ")) > "Icon used for buttons for opening a section in outline buffers." > :version "29.1" > :help-echo "Open this section") It seems the problem is somewhere else - in code that uses these definitions, because here semantically everything is correct: the outline-open button for opening a section means that the current state of the button is closed. This assumes that in "outline-open" the word "open" is a verb.