From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#68947: 30.0.50; Gnus article mode keybindings Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:15:19 +0200 Message-ID: <86fry0tcco.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87bk8ut2qd.fsf@gmail.com> <871q9p39zp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r0hofow9.fsf@gmail.com> <87r0hkxkc5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5906"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: pranshusharma366@gmail.com, 68947@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 10 19:16:08 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtY-0001OO-4a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:16:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtK-0003CU-K7; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:15:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtC-0003Bp-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:15:53 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtC-0004ym-BJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:15:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtS-0001wy-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68947 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 68947-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68947.17075889517458 (code B ref 68947); Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 68947) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2024 18:15:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtH-0001wD-2f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:15:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48372) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrtE-0001vr-RV for 68947@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:15:49 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYrst-0004wV-J6; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:15:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=afnZ58jJXo03NDN/PPR4nY8/q3J+sXXnavXoq5IzH+A=; b=PCnYb59PcNJ+ xmGhc9bdh+TeYhWm6ugKEuCLjUpLTpymIhPUU9Fr594h2t6y/sXEEbHbwJA4fwOzxjghZSDP3x49n SgsrZj5waDfaBVYGq1hhkBBYmNhb5vC2qut79zMvIr7jexMAtIPHGxU8W9JX5BTLmkaFtNWsI8FD7 5l1dGOziZwtVmXVVImxLhpLZKLW1dBdlxPkDL+NRRI/JLxNL3NzuFpNzipvHoUL1JfbuSTUC8Wt/W eJOb+I0JQGqvR/JPwE788FHmQwfyjVJj+OtheUK45/8NU2hZwLKSpFf2xisaF6gRTE8xBAnD8DM2q N5dW02rtH5r6VZVsQ9nJ4A==; In-Reply-To: <87r0hkxkc5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (message from Eric Abrahamsen on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 10:09:14 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:279781 Archived-At: > Cc: 68947@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Eric Abrahamsen > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 10:09:14 -0800 > > Your immediate issue is caused by the fact that > `gnus-article-describe-bindings', which theoretically should be > responsible for telling the user about all the redirections, is only > aware of the "S" keymap prefix. It doesn't know all the ways in which an > 'undefined binding might get translated into a valid summary-mode > command, and can't show you those. > > To be honest, I don't think I'm going to be able to fix this. If we keep > the current implementation, `gnus-article-describe-bindings' would have > to be made aware of the additional redirections, and I wouldn't even > know where to start. > > It could be that Elisp has better tools for this situation by now (the > original architecture was in place before 1997), but I'm not sure what > those tools are. Perhaps someone will chime in with a helpful > suggestion... Strange as it may sound, I see no grave problem here: C-h is not guaranteed to work after any arbitrary prefix, anyway. So if that is too hard to fix, we could just punt and leave it unsolved. What about "C-h b" -- does that work in the situation described by the recipe?