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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
Cc: 74617@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#74617: 30.0.92; ffap-menu always displays the *Completions* buffer
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 11:28:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86frn99iky.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875xo5unlo.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> (message from Daniel Mendler on Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:34:11 +0100)

> From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
> Cc: 74617@debbugs.gnu.org,  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 09:34:11 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >   emacs -Q
> >   M-x icomplete-mode RET
> >   C-x C-f nt/INSTALL.W64 RET
> >   M-x ffap-menu RET
> >
> > I see only the *Completions* buffer, no other display of the
> > candidates.  What did I miss?
> 
> Oh, right. I missed that. I think the problem here is that Icomplete
> uses a delay (`icomplete-compute-delay'). Other completion UIs don't
> have such a delay and show the candidates immediately. This makes the
> problem a little more difficult, in particular with respect to auto
> detection.

Alternatively, we could consider the cases where more than one
completion list is shown a bug in the mode which shows the completions
even though the application already did.  IOW, instead of considering
this a problem of the command the user invokes, consider this a bug in
the non-default completion UI currently in effect.  It is basically a
flaw in the design of those completion UIs.

> Another alternative to auto detection could be that the completion table
> communicates to `completing-read' via metadata that immediate candidate
> display is desired. The completion UI could then act accordingly.
> Default completion would call `minibuffer-completion-help' and Icomplete
> could update immediately, ignoring `icomplete-compute-delay'.

This sounds too indirect to me, it could cause unintended adverse
consequences, especially in nested scenarios.

There's a simpler alternative: we could say we don't care, as long as
only a few alternative UIs have this issue.  It isn't a catastrophe.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-30  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-30  7:02 bug#74617: 30.0.92; ffap-menu always displays the *Completions* buffer Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30  8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30  8:34   ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30  9:28     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-30  9:40       ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30 12:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 16:25           ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30 16:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 17:18               ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30 19:09             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30 19:13               ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30 17:46         ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-30 18:39           ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-30 18:58             ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-30 21:30           ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-01  6:17             ` Eli Zaretskii

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