bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax

bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax

[Christopher Howard]

Hi, in Elisp buffers, I am occasionally seeing a face warning (red colored on my system) for what appears to be fully legal and functional syntax. Here is a recent example:

1. emacs -Q
2. paste the following into the *scratch* buffer

``` elisp
(t-transduce
 (t-scan
  (lambda (s c)
    (concatenate 'string s (string c))) "")
 #'t-cons
 "hello")
```

On my system, the text «"")», at the end of the «concatenate» line, is given font-lock-warning-face. Is this a bug, or some kind of warning about bad elisp style?


In GNU Emacs 30.0.92 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-11-26 built on theoden
Repository revision: fc17e8727d48c32f2610c6fe7c17147bff7be52b
Repository branch: emacs-30
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101012
System Description: Guix System

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/home/christopher/local/emacs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3'
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/gnu/store/f335yc4x4ps0qalm4hafy0dggsfczfkj-profile/lib/pkgconfig:/gnu/store/f335yc4x4ps0qalm4hafy0dggsfczfkj-profile/share/pkgconfig:/home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/lib/pkgconfig:/home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/share/pkgconfig:/home/christopher/.guix-profile/lib/pkgconfig:/home/christopher/.guix-profile/share/pkgconfig'

Configured features:
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LCMS2 LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP
SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM
GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
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  value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: /home/christopher/local/emacs/share/emacs/30.0.92/lisp:/home/christopher/.guix-home/profile/lib/emacs/native-site-lisp
  value of $LANG: en_US.utf8
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Major mode: Org

Minor modes in effect:
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bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com>
> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 09:49:03 -0900
> 
> Hi, in Elisp buffers, I am occasionally seeing a face warning (red colored on my system) for what appears to be fully legal and functional syntax. Here is a recent example:
> 
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. paste the following into the *scratch* buffer
> 
> ``` elisp
> (t-transduce
>  (t-scan
>   (lambda (s c)
>     (concatenate 'string s (string c))) "")
>  #'t-cons
>  "hello")
> ```
> 
> On my system, the text «"")», at the end of the «concatenate» line, is given font-lock-warning-face. Is this a bug, or some kind of warning about bad elisp style?

The latter, I think.  If you insert a newline before that "", does the
warning face go away?

bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax

[Christopher Howard]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> The latter, I think.  If you insert a newline before that "", does the
> warning face go away?

Yes, it does go away.

If this is a style warning

(1) could we clarify what rule I'm breaking, exactly? Is this rule something I can toggle on/off?

(2) should we consider using a distinct face for style warnings?

I don't personally see a problem with putting a small argument at the end of a line, to save screen line space, though I wouldn't mind following the rule if it was set in somebody else's project.

-- 
Christopher Howard

bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com>
> Cc: 74673@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2024 10:19:18 -0900
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > The latter, I think.  If you insert a newline before that "", does the
> > warning face go away?
> 
> Yes, it does go away.
> 
> If this is a style warning

It is.

> (1) could we clarify what rule I'm breaking, exactly? Is this rule something I can toggle on/off?

Move the mouse pointer there and wait for a split-second: you will see
the answer in a tooltip.

> (2) should we consider using a distinct face for style warnings?

What's wrong with font-lock-warning-face?

> I don't personally see a problem with putting a small argument at the end of a line, to save screen line space, though I wouldn't mind following the rule if it was set in somebody else's project.

See the explanation in the tooltip.

bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax

[Christopher Howard]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Move the mouse pointer there and wait for a split-second: you will see
> the answer in a tooltip.
>

Is there a way to view tooltips without making any use of the mouse? I see that I can get tooltips displayed in the echo area, but apparently I still must utilize the mouse to see the tooltip in the first place.

>> (2) should we consider using a distinct face for style warnings?
>
> What's wrong with font-lock-warning-face?
>

In my mind, a style warning is significantly different from a warning about somethat that might cause my code to malfunction when run or compiled. If there was a face specific to style warnings, I would make it a distinct and less dramatic face appearance.

I see this warning is hard coded in lisp-mode.el. There does not appear to be an option to turn this warning on or off, though I suppose I could replace lisp--match-hidden-arg with something that always returns not-matching.

-- 
Christopher Howard