From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: cpardo@imayhem.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38002: Please remove this joke Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 21:13:38 +0100 Message-ID: <86eeyrtkwd.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> References: <86bltxng32.fsf@inmotica-integral.es> <87k18k7ugd.fsf@gnus.org> <3th83oen14.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <874kzna7mb.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="262659"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (windows-nt) Cc: nipponpost@airmail.cc, bug-gnu-emacs , rms@gnu.org, 38002@debbugs.gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 01 21:52:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iQdu2-001686-CH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 01 Nov 2019 21:13:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <874kzna7mb.fsf@mbork.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Fri, 01 Nov 2019 17:23:08 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+0RjfVJ9dkg1S8e+qowIeD2HNupfmXvBEFATis+S1X65JhN5zZo 9NrGid55EjTYUfGHDXsHzJ4ekVByJ4qpVw1FzKBWB6ry07s1Bt/o+5EPnLg4G2yYGvQFxiT aczXo6Nm/RopR3PaeuoLi6dai2dAF56mcbs9FkAtWRQKcMhBvXGilrn9VcjQRJTMJ36U2IO 7SwMUSKMbXVYWMFAC0V7A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qb/qg7b8gkI=:Sdwkh18BOFRcOVGBNyT0xv GZsnh1h/curdXNQ/2VmYZ0gv1xmdXNOX53Ith+KjZcHii2aE4zwIRU1LdzS+6wXvxrt+XHA2E XbalqN8lACJWoZ7sqrlpEK70uuSOGghtwpgiRJqoUZEJapsWLEVpXCekTe9RnlukKkYfH7MtA Oiu/uUaoqRavilnKoeNx/GmuUNVjx0uv/abahOj6LMCR6roUrpATw4EjEdpllfSMOzgLHCKQ/ aJQvoGaMc7o1WnfBbZk62anPVgyM986TMFqJkq9Pt44pHFH0KkXRyECAPR+8+zfk8swbUCCfv lP3JEpyV/bVevrqMgruugwxSpyUCWCjN75/7Os+GVWmdK1YWNJXKOO5LAcHeNoiMxvfFKlKeD BEWeFZ0+emavSyZ57b5iFnSDGYQroC2qjnayF0qAfalLosvTlaB6O3j/qom1O49gJU+y4M2QO a5ns9LZN0q5DCa2KqiDio6wXTkbUKGo0Xgop516T1vzbk8mYdOYBNUPsIo+oYWYC39OHb1kY1 4O+be3xHixsp8v8fmYLINTGwZkwsJ3aJAC142HgVuxm6UGHzKD3MQYj/TX95rUOHugIx7GG5K RDdaaRydkzwOjRuqgjMqbd1ATey6LIxWHp5C1QjugjqDClHXmO2Dp2ZNBzlAhEBc36paO8n1M 1PW9gfzBpmHtpLCEcgq4U4Rt1Fm8RIAOHNL9tzZWOnI6xllqtP2fjA3j6tgF12KO54hcw5uk3 QJJ4EibwSr/gdt+15C1KJuSzJ/lKl/o5iCJqfHln5QpkQwcPMgODzYMUFfX0MHTvWQIgzdsE X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 16:51:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170679 Archived-At: > Marcin Borkowski: > > The problem is, this one particular joke isn't bad at all, quite the > opposite - irrespective whether one laughs at women or hacker's > stereotype of women. (I think both interpretations are valid, and none > is too offensive for my taste. The previous joke in the file is > definitely more offensive, for instance.) IOW, I consider it a feature, > not a bug. (And I repeated it to many of my friends, and we all had > a good laugh.) Who does the previous joke offend? Are you sure you are reading the correct one? The removed joke demeans women by describing them as unpredictable, irrational beings. If you enjoy that kind of humor, good for you. But hosting it the distribution of one of the flagship software pieces of a project based on ethics if obviosly wrong. > This is not only false perspective, but it is plainly dangerous. > Pitting men against women (or women against men) is exactly what > feminists do, and it is one of the reasons feminism is such a poison for > the society. Feminism aims for equality of the sexes. Such poison. -- Cecilio Pardo