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From: Michael <sp1ff@runbox.com>
To: Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, 51037@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51037: [PATCH] Make `print-level` & `print-length` customizable in ERT batch tests
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:02:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ee87lct4.fsf@runbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgqxs1c8.fsf@runbox.com>


Gemini Lasswell <gazally@runbox.com> writes:

> Michael writes:
>
>> My personal incliniation is to remove the 
>> `backtrace-line-length`
>> variable entirely, and make the `debug` package responsible for
>> controlling print-level so as to avoid 31919. But that's me: is
>> there a compelling use-case for backtrace.el working in terms 
>> of
>> limiting line length rather than just using 
>> `print-le{ve,ength}`?
>
> The motivation for `backtrace-line-length` was to find a 
> compromise that
> made backtraces more user-friendly in interactive debugging for 
> both
> small and large data structures.  Setting `print-level` and
> `print-length` too small will create a lot of ellipses in small 
> data
> structures, making you have to expand those ellipses to see your 
> data;
> setting those variables a little bit bigger will unleash 
> exponential
> growth in line length for large data structures, causing delays 
> of
> seconds to minutes when rendering and navigating your backtrace. 
> The
> heuristics in `cl-print-to-string-with-limit` try to do a 
> reasonable job
> with both small and large data structures, so the user can get 
> on with
> debugging, rather than first having to figure out values of the 
> `print-`
> variables which will make debugging possible.
>
> Another goal of backtrace buffers is to make the data structures
> represented there be completely navigable, which is why lines 
> are not
> simply truncated.
>
> If you don't want ellipses in your backtraces, then bind
> `backtrace-line-length` to nil or zero.  If you want to see how 
> long a
> backtrace line can get, try that out with magit or org-export.

lol... I see. So you found `backtrace-line-length` to be more
ergonomic than print-level & print-length at controlling
verbosity (at least where backtraces are concerned)-- fair?

One thing: when I evaluate this:

    (let ((print-length nil)
          (print-level nil)
          (backtrace-line-length nil))
      (backtrace-to-string))

I receive the following error message:

    backtrace-print-frame: Wrong type argument: 
    number-or-marker-p, nil

I take it that is unexpected? It's fine if so, I'm happy to
debug, I just want to be sure I'm not running off down the garden
path.

-- 
Michael <sp1ff@runbox.com>





  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-05 14:28 bug#51037: [PATCH] Make `print-level` & `print-length` customizable in ERT batch tests Michael
2021-10-06  9:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-06 12:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07  7:59     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-07  8:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 19:03         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 13:52           ` Michael
2021-10-13 11:07             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 13:41               ` Michael
2021-10-13 14:06                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 19:50                   ` Michael
2021-10-25 13:03                     ` Gemini Lasswell
2021-10-26 21:02                       ` Michael [this message]
2021-10-27 13:13                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 13:05                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 21:10                       ` Michael
2021-10-27 13:15                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14  2:55                           ` Michael
2021-11-14  7:05                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14 15:42                               ` Michael
2021-11-14 18:04                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-15 23:11                                   ` Michael
2021-11-14 14:39                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14 14:42                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14 17:45                                 ` Michael
2021-11-14 17:50                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-15 23:32                                 ` Michael
2021-11-16  7:48                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-17 16:22                                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-18  9:27                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-18 13:51                                         ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-19 15:24                                         ` Michael
2021-11-19 18:46                                           ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-20 16:49                                             ` Michael
2021-11-20 22:19                                               ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-22 14:07                                                 ` Michael
2021-11-22 17:29                                                   ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-24 16:29                                                     ` Michael
2021-11-24 19:53                                                       ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-29 16:16                                                         ` Michael
2021-10-07 21:04       ` Andy Moreton
2021-10-07 22:04         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-08 13:49           ` Andy Moreton
2021-10-08 15:24   ` Michael
2021-10-09 11:19     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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