From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70326: 30.0.50; Backup Files documentation does not match observed behaviour Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:28:14 +0300 Message-ID: <86edbduiep.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86h6g9ul5s.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttk9ujzy.fsf@metalevel.at> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24594"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 70326@debbugs.gnu.org To: Markus Triska Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 10 21:29:18 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ruddG-000687-9R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:29:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rudcv-0005nR-Of; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rudct-0005jT-UJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rudct-0001h4-M7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rudd2-0000br-0M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:29:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:29:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70326 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 70326-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70326.17127773182148 (code B ref 70326); Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:29:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70326) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2024 19:28:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54391 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rudca-0000YN-Nu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42560) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rudcU-0000WM-P4 for 70326@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rudcF-0001dp-RX; Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:28:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=eWuPRG9QTpUCoX8nwzBg8Q6vlQ+MVkuQbcmviwHmHPU=; b=HgadyyWW8dzg ySFbCIzXvMK5VyS7e/4nM00hdcF0kjUDwzLdP0vHHOx3rUcxf1xlyXUPl8WuFWhbdToxbq4YF+8zV fTrai0U6A383GXRO9Ub9l6IKzVjJHPOltVTxp8WyBuLX/XTiYkcHvJy/dyOWUxTZaXboBYAQ3SsAU bYL9hz28aB0SCH4qeoDK4Eoigvr4BAxj19IXERAlJHUXQ6XyZSN/oG/OaFkduv+nircR2ECgpTNy7 oIASdguNofSh9K/VuqEUkenX/E1NENs5csPQxpR7GvBKhgbgNZ5ATzZfIAccXQmQFoWF4ZNRmf8QY CM1OiDjwOY09O+KoTEFlFw==; In-Reply-To: <87ttk9ujzy.fsf@metalevel.at> (message from Markus Triska on Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:53:53 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:283065 Archived-At: > From: Markus Triska > Cc: 70326@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:53:53 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > "C-x C-w" is not "saving the file from a buffer". "C-h c" says that > > "C-x C-w runs the command write-file". So I don't see anything wrong > > with what the manual says. > > To reproduce the issue, you can also type a letter and then use C-x C-s > (i.e., save-buffer), and observe the same effect: A backup file is not > created, even though a file is saved for the first time from a buffer. That is still not saving the file from its buffer.