From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#72442: 31.0.50; Gnus or message.el doesn't handle international message reply subject prefixes and insults users Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 15:20:54 +0300 Message-ID: <86ed6jwfkp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <868qxdvchc.fsf@gnu.org> <861q35v80b.fsf@gnu.org> <87o75nv85p.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6818"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 72442@debbugs.gnu.org, bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 20 14:21:57 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sgNs5-0001by-9t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sgNrA-0005aY-PA; Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:21:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=u8VAW/b++HmYC/pb1MzeqLK6tvabWj5S+Y3QDCa+oqQ=; b=BtMwW0gXYVvDb9dDFXkZ vlNvWeaPiEcfDsceTRHv69dYR6Eo6Zv8ZKLHlz9kMbNXLq4+qYX9MwVQkJtX7A21e2wIYdFvsAY+x N7/7K+C4Mzze6AMZnDtYGKjain17w/DuLSOVuEw+WZ7b9Q4AKz7RSOQlZydqC+MmtoeD87QP3nJk6 wW8/uvQ//PhQefpawn+aV49hN7pDeFkslXFrU+sH+EWTMKL3mEaMZ62JQ48jTMpwRsBfiiEAvZxwX pa042G9EQk8utUnJmVvDwOJmH/WKefBhIV/Vg494DPrjhzX1u5gPSWEoa7MfT93ubNXnf+ahVsRoE lMnSEjnGABNs8g==; In-Reply-To: <87o75nv85p.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:46:26 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:290441 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: Björn Bidar , > 72442@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 11:46:26 +0200 > > >>>>> On Sat, 03 Aug 2024 20:19:48 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: > > >> From: Björn Bidar > >> Cc: 72442@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2024 19:58:46 +0300 > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >> > FWIW, Rmail does support the various ways of saying "Re:", so the code > >> > could be lifted from there. > > So does message, you just have to configure > `message-subject-re-regexp'. The message manual contains an > appropriate setting. I wouldn't expect users to know how to do that in advance of getting the various "Re:" variants out there. Should we perhaps improve the default value to be less English-centric? > We could just add the example from the manual to the `defcustom' for > `message-subject-re-regexp' (and also align it with whatever Rmail > does). I think good defaults here win big time. This corner is notoriously dark and most users will not know how to make it better.