From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71356: use-package doesn't load org from elpa Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 19:12:27 +0300 Message-ID: <86cyoo93pw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86plsvk57o.fsf@gnu.org> <86ed9aip6z.fsf@gnu.org> <87ed9abnqn.fsf@posteo.net> <868qziifzd.fsf@gnu.org> <87msnt1gkf.fsf@posteo.net> <86y17d7zzm.fsf@gnu.org> <877cew24c5.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38017"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 71356@debbugs.gnu.org, acorallo@gnu.org, paaguti@gmail.com To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 10 18:30:55 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhv5-0009gT-E0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 18:30:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhux-0001Va-Hs; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhuv-0001VJ-63 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhuu-0007kT-UK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhvB-0004My-MX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:31:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71356 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 71356-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71356.171803703913722 (code B ref 71356); Mon, 10 Jun 2024 16:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71356) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2024 16:30:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhuo-0003YM-KO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:30:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42130) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhuj-00037I-JI for 71356@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:30:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sGhdF-0002so-8e; Mon, 10 Jun 2024 12:12:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=NU0mqEfAL89yBOh+67Cx8/v1Pat16mqw0PiGcHxwtRo=; b=G3C9ky7mb3SJ 77yQvYGGli0tp1xwMMgfMcbgKBW1jmwuY5yjwq5Su6bVxihNE3pH7ILuHzPQ2yvTHLQ8F0JzOEhIi /zGBs/ney7iRHbhsEb15qnN2xrzy8Tm7Xlg/Wl6m/wog39Wc+dW6lXO+ueht+1zi4SQg3XuvKGaEj RRXpHA7GZzhw8nV2DDFszWJubBw2s0zEQrMyHEN2vZMoCwKOqGNA3Wf5PYJuLCHYaaYXYJ6+Q1A1E GXW3IYW8Ldmc1L8a9rWBKsMyqRZft2BFmuxKopLsJF/IcCU5GwSc0MmUbt/TyM6FIiDNBpAqAB38i pTA6MkETHW978OUlmLQ+zQ==; In-Reply-To: <877cew24c5.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:40:58 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:287049 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: Andrea Corallo , paaguti@gmail.com, > 71356@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:40:58 +0000 > > >> > To me :pin would make perfect sense, as it explicitly expresses what > >> > archive we want to follow for package upgrades. > >> > >> +1, also use-package interface is very declarative and I'm not sure > >> having it influenced by a dynamic var would match user expected > >> behavior. > > > > If you prefer, we could add a new :foo keyword to mean this. But > > unconditionally changing what :pin means in these cases is out of the > > question. > > We wouldn't change what :pin means directly, but just have > package-install respect `package-pinned-packages'. How is that different? It's an incompatible change of behavior, and I cannot agree to that, sorry.