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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer`
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:59:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86cyisvgtn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b07de9fd995f14e3b4d675c7288108dbe57209c.camel@yandex.ru> (message from Konstantin Kharlamov on Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:05:54 +0300)

> From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, acm@muc.de, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:05:54 +0300
> 
> Btw, thank you, this bit of history indeed is interesting. During whole
> discussion I had a question on the back of my mind: how this
> "distribute pre-built elc in tarballs" idea initially came to be. I
> mean, it's kind of nice from POV of saving a bit of energy around the
> world on CI machines, but I don't see much beyond that. Building elc
> files is not *that* bad for elc distribution to be strictly necessary.

Once again, building all the *.elc files takes a long time, even on
modern systems.  I have a 32-core screamer, and it still takes a few
minutes to byte-compile everything.  On an older system, it used to
take me 15 minutes even in parallel (-j4) builds.

Computers got much faster, but people know that, so they have less
patience.  Thus, avoiding recompilation of the *.elc files (and Info,
and other derived files) is still important to make the build faster.
A release tarball builds in less than 1 min due to these measures.

> Now that you told this, I realize it's just a solution to a problem
> from 25 years old back, from times when that actually was a problem.

I don't understand this conclusion.  What problem existed 25 years ago
that is related to "make clean" or to load-prefer-newer, and doesn't
exist anymore?





  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-18 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-16 15:11 bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 11:19   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-12-11 15:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 11:21   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 16:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-16 17:45   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 18:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 18:43       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 20:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 22:54           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17  6:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:31               ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17  7:25     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-17 15:21       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:04               ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 16:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:46                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 17:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 17:24                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18  4:06                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-18  6:19                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 10:05                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 12:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-18 13:12                       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 13:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-07 11:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43         ` Gerd Möllmann

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