From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer`
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:59:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86cyisvgtn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b07de9fd995f14e3b4d675c7288108dbe57209c.camel@yandex.ru> (message from Konstantin Kharlamov on Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:05:54 +0300)
> From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel@yandex.ru>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, acm@muc.de, 74382@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 13:05:54 +0300
>
> Btw, thank you, this bit of history indeed is interesting. During whole
> discussion I had a question on the back of my mind: how this
> "distribute pre-built elc in tarballs" idea initially came to be. I
> mean, it's kind of nice from POV of saving a bit of energy around the
> world on CI machines, but I don't see much beyond that. Building elc
> files is not *that* bad for elc distribution to be strictly necessary.
Once again, building all the *.elc files takes a long time, even on
modern systems. I have a 32-core screamer, and it still takes a few
minutes to byte-compile everything. On an older system, it used to
take me 15 minutes even in parallel (-j4) builds.
Computers got much faster, but people know that, so they have less
patience. Thus, avoiding recompilation of the *.elc files (and Info,
and other derived files) is still important to make the build faster.
A release tarball builds in less than 1 min due to these measures.
> Now that you told this, I realize it's just a solution to a problem
> from 25 years old back, from times when that actually was a problem.
I don't understand this conclusion. What problem existed 25 years ago
that is related to "make clean" or to load-prefer-newer, and doesn't
exist anymore?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-18 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-16 15:11 bug#74382: `compile-first` Make rule is no longer using `load-prefer-newer` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 11:19 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-12-11 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-11 11:21 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 16:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-16 17:45 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 18:43 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-16 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 22:54 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:31 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 7:25 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-17 15:21 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:04 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 16:46 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-17 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 17:24 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 4:06 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-11-18 6:19 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 10:05 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-18 13:12 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-11-18 13:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-07 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-17 15:43 ` Gerd Möllmann
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