From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, mickey@masteringemacs.org,
73404@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 14:18:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86cyh18nee.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5c5v5z8.fsf@thornhill.no> (message from Theodor Thornhill on Sun, 05 Jan 2025 12:46:03 +0100)
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> From: Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>
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> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 12:46:03 +0100
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> Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>
> > The command is 'forward-list'. With 'list' it will do in ts-modes
> > the same that 'forward-list' already does in non-ts modes.
>
> One issue I've had when exploring these things earlier is that I don't
> know the "spec" for how navigation in programming languages should work
> in Emacs. I mean, there are lots of examples in the source code, but no
> true specification. Should we possibly try to define some sane defaults
> here, so that it will be simpler to deal with idiosyncrasies of the tree
> sitter parsers? Lisp isn't in my experience the best language to define
> this, as it is just too simple. Also, many of the functions are related
> to word processing, like sentence, word, paragraph etc, which aren't
> really useful in programming, imo. What is a sentence in java, lisp, or
> python, for example? Also, maybe sexp is too lisp/ast-like of a term, so
> much so that it is hard to reason about what a sexp is or isn't.
Is this goal achievable in practice,l given the sometimes radical
differences between languages? Maybe we only can have examples and
some dwim-ish behavior in most cases?
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-21 5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26 9:56 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 12:13 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 5:43 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01 3:57 ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02 6:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11 6:31 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 8:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 7:06 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 4:04 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 7:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:18 ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 3:02 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 7:41 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-13 7:31 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-13 7:47 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-14 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-18 7:59 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 3:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-27 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 9:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:39 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:34 ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:44 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 8:34 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-27 7:59 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-27 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-29 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 7:15 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 8:00 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-04 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-04 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 11:46 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2025-01-05 12:30 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:20 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 17:59 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:50 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2025-01-06 18:04 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-06 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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2025-01-07 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-11 18:19 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-11 19:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-12 7:34 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-12 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 14:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 8:56 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-07 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-08 2:27 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-09 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-09 18:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2025-01-09 18:44 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-10 3:14 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-10 7:34 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-30 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
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