From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastien Vauban Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21140: 25.0.50; Isearch "char-fold" by default Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:01:57 +0200 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <86bnevjq0q.fsf@example.com> References: <86vbd5n27r.fsf@example.com> <873809z0w0.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83si89xb68.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9only85.fsf@mail.linkov.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438160892 24943 80.91.229.3 (29 Jul 2015 09:08:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bruce.connor.am-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org, 21140-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Wed Jul 29 11:07:57 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNL7-00014q-SN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:07:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34192 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNL7-0006aZ-7T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:07:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49287) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNGU-0006UV-QN for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNGQ-0006S0-JL for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNGQ-0006Rv-Gi for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNGQ-0004vd-5W for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:03:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-From: Sebastien Vauban Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21140 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21140-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org id=B21140.143816053318885 (code B ref 21140); Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21140) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2015 09:02:13 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNFc-0004uW-Hp for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:10124 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKNFZ-0004uM-Jz for 21140-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 05:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mundaneum (unknown [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 556D7500C5C; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:02:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt In-Reply-To: <87h9only85.fsf-i9wRM+HIrmlRTR8OWt4JRw@public.gmane.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:21:45 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105213 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>> In case of case-folding the parameter names used in isearch messages ar= e: >>> =E2=80=9Ccase-sensitive=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Ccase-insensitive=E2=80=9D. >>> >>> By analogy, can we use: =E2=80=9Cchar-sensitive=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cc= har-insensitive=E2=80=9D? >> >> I doubt that will be clear to users, since no one else calls this by >> that name. "Folding" is the accepted terminology, though perhaps >> "char-fold" is also slightly unclear. How about just "Fold"? > > =E2=80=9CFold=E2=80=9D is too broad. =E2=80=9CChar-fold=E2=80=9D is more= concise and seems is > the accepted terminology, e.g. > https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/current/character-fol= ding.html > http://userguide.icu-project.org/transforms/casemappings > Or does Unicode.org have a better name? I can find only this draft > http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr30/tr30-4.html Didn't know about the term (and the functionality) "char-folding". If that's somehow "official" or "standard", let's keep it. BTW, is this implemented in other editors? How do they call that functionality? No, the question is: where to put those "toggles"? In the prompt, in the modeline or nowhere? Best regards, Seb --=20 Sebastien Vauban