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From: Michael <sp1ff@runbox.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: gazally@runbox.com, 51037@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#51037: [PATCH] Make `print-level` & `print-length` customizable in ERT batch tests
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2021 14:10:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86bl3blcgm.fsf@runbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y26hz24c.fsf@gnus.org>


Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Michael <sp1ff@runbox.com> writes:
>
>> The issue: stack traces are printed by the `backtrace`
>> package. backtrace.el was authored by Gemini (which is why I've
>> added him to this thread). backtrace.el doesn't directly work 
>> in
>> terms of `print-le{ngth,vel}`: it defines a custom variable
>> `backtrace-line-length` and then adjusts print-level &
>> print-length in let bindings in order to:
>>
>>  1. try to respect the desired line length
>>  2. not trigger bug 31919 (Lisp Debugger doesn't work when at
>>  stack limit)
>
> [...]
>
>> For myself, I was quite surprised to all learn this: I had to
>> spend a fair bit of time digging through the source to find out
>> what was happening to my settings for print-length &
>> print-level.
>
> Yeah, I didn't remember `backtrace-line-length' either.  Perhaps 
> it
> should be linked to from the doc strings of print-length and
> print-level... 

I was thinking to augment the docstring for
`backtrace-line-lenght' to note that print-level & print-length
will be overiden to honor it.

>> My personal incliniation is to remove the 
>> `backtrace-line-length`
>> variable entirely, and make the `debug` package responsible for
>> controlling print-level so as to avoid 31919. But that's me: is
>> there a compelling use-case for backtrace.el working in terms 
>> of
>> limiting line length rather than just using 
>> `print-le{ve,ength}`?
>
> Well...  if we're talking in an ert context, it could increase 
> both the
> backtrace-line-length and max-lisp-eval-depth variables when 
> gathering
> the backtrace, I think?

The problem is that I can't know a priori how big I have to set
them in order to honor print-level & print-length. I think I can
short-circuit this entirely by setting `backtrace-line-length' to
nil or zero before printing the backtrace from ert. eval-level
shouldn't enter into it I think; the concern was that if code
exceeded max-lisp-eval-depth, and the debugger was triggered,
*then* backtrace.el might have problems. Do you see a reason to
be concerned outside of that corner case?

-- 
Michael <sp1ff@runbox.com>





  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-26 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-05 14:28 bug#51037: [PATCH] Make `print-level` & `print-length` customizable in ERT batch tests Michael
2021-10-06  9:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-06 12:52   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07  7:59     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-07  8:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 19:03         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 13:52           ` Michael
2021-10-13 11:07             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 13:41               ` Michael
2021-10-13 14:06                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-24 19:50                   ` Michael
2021-10-25 13:03                     ` Gemini Lasswell
2021-10-26 21:02                       ` Michael
2021-10-27 13:13                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 13:05                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-26 21:10                       ` Michael [this message]
2021-10-27 13:15                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14  2:55                           ` Michael
2021-11-14  7:05                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-14 15:42                               ` Michael
2021-11-14 18:04                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-15 23:11                                   ` Michael
2021-11-14 14:39                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14 14:42                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-14 17:45                                 ` Michael
2021-11-14 17:50                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-15 23:32                                 ` Michael
2021-11-16  7:48                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-17 16:22                                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-18  9:27                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-18 13:51                                         ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-19 15:24                                         ` Michael
2021-11-19 18:46                                           ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-20 16:49                                             ` Michael
2021-11-20 22:19                                               ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-22 14:07                                                 ` Michael
2021-11-22 17:29                                                   ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-24 16:29                                                     ` Michael
2021-11-24 19:53                                                       ` Filipp Gunbin
2021-11-29 16:16                                                         ` Michael
2021-10-07 21:04       ` Andy Moreton
2021-10-07 22:04         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-08 13:49           ` Andy Moreton
2021-10-08 15:24   ` Michael
2021-10-09 11:19     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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