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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Rudi C <rudiwillalwaysloveyou@gmail.com>
Cc: 70071-done@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de
Subject: bug#70071: [FR] Provide official install scripts without requiring root, e.g., by making a static build possible
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:31:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86bk6ubvdo.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9z9A2_zLqPR8H_QoeW04DioNXdHM43Z1kw8xfyWiRHJG-Q1A@mail.gmail.com> (message from Rudi C on Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:36:16 +0330)

> Cc: 70071@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Rudi C <rudiwillalwaysloveyou@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:36:16 +0330
> 
> I discovered a tool called junest (https://github.com/fsquillace/junest) that appears to work for installing Emacs
> without root access.

I'm glad you found a solution for you.

> Given that many users do not have root access, it is crucial to provide an official, well-documented method for
> installing Emacs in such environments. Addressing this issue should take precedence over introducing new
> features, as it will significantly improve the user experience and make Emacs more accessible to a wider
> audience.

As already mentioned, such a method exists and is well-documented: use
the --prefix option of the configure script to install Emacs in a
directory to which you have access.

This is not specific to Emacs, btw: every package that is built using
Autoconf-produced configure script and Makefiles accepts the --prefix
option to specify where to install it.

> In the current state, recommending Emacs to new users can be difficult, as the installation process requires a
> considerable amount of Linux knowledge. By streamlining the installation process for non-root users, Emacs
> will become more user-friendly and attractive to newcomers.

Users who are not knowledgeable enough to install Emacs on their own
should use a distro, or ask someone else to help them.

> As for what this officially endorsed (and tested) way of installing emacs without root should be, I don't have the
> expertise. But perhaps GNU Guix could officially support a non-root mode, as it seems technically possible.

Please suggest this to the Guix folks.  It is possible they will
provide such a feature, if it isn't already provided.  I don't know
enough about Guix to tell more, sorry.

> Alternatively, the Emacs installation documentation could include instructions on using a non-root package
> manager like junest, which should be tested to ensure compatibility with Emacs.

Sorry, we cannot possibly advertise other packages for these jobs: we
don't have the manpower for tracking them and studying them.

And with that, I'm closing this bug report, since I think we have
already covered everything that is relevant to this issue.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-31  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29 12:42 bug#70071: [FR] Provide official install scripts without requiring root, e.g., by making a static build possible Rudi C
2024-03-29 13:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-29 14:24   ` Rudi C
2024-03-29 14:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30  1:19     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-30 12:55       ` Rudi C
2024-03-30 13:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-30 14:31           ` Rudi C
2024-03-31  0:37             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-31  6:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-31  8:39 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-31  9:06   ` Rudi C
2024-03-31  9:31     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-04-02 21:41       ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-06 10:31         ` Eli Zaretskii

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