From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71356: use-package doesn't load org from elpa Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 12:15:05 +0300 Message-ID: <86a5jyig9y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86plsvk57o.fsf@gnu.org> <86ed9aip6z.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1732"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 71356@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, acorallo@gnu.org To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 06 11:16:13 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9ED-000093-7k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 11:16:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9Dp-0000qq-9l; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9Dn-0000qT-Vg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:15:48 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9Dn-0003XI-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:15:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9E1-0000Im-VW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:16:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 09:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71356 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 71356-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71356.17176653311121 (code B ref 71356); Thu, 06 Jun 2024 09:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71356) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jun 2024 09:15:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52320 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9DW-0000I0-LR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9DV-0000Hn-7E for 71356@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sF9DA-0003Is-V0; Thu, 06 Jun 2024 05:15:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=oF3sRB6TQaYa4Yv13JBqBlkjKU+lmXi26Y0RP5l0qRU=; b=mfefY+ecC5aO oj0+jpDRGDGZEheUaFDhawblOEK6H4TctBOE7bK2E95//DRn9rKnBQabL+rzGzwIXygweikDk/8xo cttcixNEkTQ44rrQ7bKnE9hZdET4iVfAibivyQAOX7lw20FKm/2F+Xp9vxND9EJ/5NZFEuXArwJ+Q xS9tM0I+jWwOSVm7qAUlp4/OiTGl0n1c61+8KgdrPwuJw/4G/cNPSg9uGUD6i4tqfzdGPECis4i+t IvwGlnYtS0tPbPWwdmYAhootOXjPzrvdBzbJa5GawpzlP9prvGUq05uvBFDCmp91YOTpEzpf22Ue2 YwwATOcN+VD5rPA3C+cXcg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez on Thu, 6 Jun 2024 08:11:37 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:286671 Archived-At: > From: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 08:11:37 +0200 > Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, 71356@debbugs.gnu.org > > Do you have package-install-upgrade-built-in set non-nil? If not, can > you set it non-nil and try the recipe again? > > Retried on an unpatched emacs master with package-install-upgrade-builtin set to t and had the same > behaviour. I think this is a bug. > As for a feature request: what exactly is the feature requested here? > Are you saying that use-package should automatically upgrade built-in > packages? If so, I don't think this will fly, since it would mean > inconsistencies with package-install. > > This is exactly what I would like to discuss ;-) What options do we have to allow built-in packages to be > upgradable from the archives? I quoted from the Emacs manual what should be done to allow that. If and when use-package supports that, it's how we decided to handle built-in packages: by default not upgraded, unless the user says to upgrade them in one of those ways. > A new keyword in combination with :pin so that we can cherry-pick which packages we want to actually refresh > from elpa > and which ones we are fine with if they are built in? Maybe. First we should see that use-package obeys the user option I mentioned.