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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
Cc: arash@gnu.org, 72313@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#72313: 31.0.50; Warning about cl-member possibly being undefined when using cl-pushnew
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:58:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86a5i2159w.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v80qftk4.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Tassilo Horn on Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:50:35 +0200)

> Cc: 72313@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 22:50:35 +0200
> 
> Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
> > text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> >>> So the conclusion is to simply (require 'cl-lib) instead of
> >>> (eval-when-compile (require 'cl-lib))?  But how can the
> >>> byte-compiler conclude that cl-member might not be defined at
> >>> runtime given that it's an autoloaded function?
> >>
> >> It's autoloaded from `cl-seq` when `cl-lib` is loaded.
> >> It's not autoloaded at startup.
> 
> What's that magic?
> 
>   emacs -Q
>   (featurep 'cl-lib) ;=> nil
>   (describe-function 'cl-member) ; prints the help string to *Messages*
>   (featurep 'cl-lib) ;=> t
> 
> Do the help facilities load stuff on demand?

Yes, of course.  As the rest of Emacs, actually.  In fact, only
help.el is preloaded, the rest of Help facilities (help-mode,
help-fns, apropos, etc.) are loaded on demand only.





      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-28  4:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-26 20:29 bug#72313: 31.0.50; Warning about cl-member possibly being undefined when using cl-pushnew Tassilo Horn
2024-07-26 21:20 ` Jeremy Bryant via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-27  7:01 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-27  7:13   ` Tassilo Horn
2024-07-27  7:49     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-27 15:29       ` Arash Esbati
2024-07-27 20:50         ` Tassilo Horn
2024-07-27 21:25           ` Arash Esbati
2024-07-31 17:44             ` Tassilo Horn
2024-07-31 19:55               ` Arash Esbati
2024-07-28  4:58           ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]

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