bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Robert Boyer]

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ispell-buffer breaks on

ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya

Thanks so much to all you great Emacs folks,

Bob

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bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 23:34:52 -0600
> 
> ispell-buffer breaks on
> 
> ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya

Breaks how?

Please tell more details about the problem, so we could investigate it
and attempt to fix it whatever needs fixing.

Specifically, we need to know the following:

 . in what language is the above text written?
 . what spell-checking program do you use as the back-end for
   ispell-buffer? is it Aspell, Hunspell, Enchant, something else?
 . what dictionary for the above language do you have installed, and
   where can that dictionary be obtained?
 . what are the signs of "breakage" of ispell-buffer for the above
   text? please post any error messages or other indications of
   problems that you observe when you invoke ispell-buffer on that
   text
 . on what Operating System do you see the problem, and in which
   version of Emacs?

Thanks.

bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Robert Boyer]

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Dearest Eli,

Perhaps I can answer a few of your questions, but Emacs, as always, answers
the
most. See far below.

Ispell-breaks on:

 ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya

> Breaks how?

Here is the error report I see:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Ispell misalignment: word ‘nam’ point
122; probabl...")
  error("Ispell misalignment: word `%s' point %d; probably ..." "nam" 122)
  ispell-process-line("^> ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya\n" nil)
  ispell-region(1 5627)
  ispell-buffer()
  funcall-interactively(ispell-buffer)
  command-execute(ispell-buffer record)
  execute-extended-command(nil "ispell-buffer" "ispell-b")
  funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "ispell-buffer"
"ispell-b")
  command-execute(execute-extended-command)

> Please tell more details about the problem, so we could investigate it
> and attempt to fix it whatever needs fixing.

> Specifically, we need to know the following:

> in what language is the above text written?

I am not certain. 'Indian' is a sick response. Perhaps Tamil? Perhaps
Sanskrit. My Guru, Kumar Saran (ramanahouston@outlook.com) can tell you
precisely. I have cc'd him on this message.

> What spell-checking program do you use as the back-end for ispell-buffer?

I am as dumb as I rock. I have no idea. I use a Chromebook, I am sure. I get
ispell with the single Debian Gnu Linux shell command:

   sudo apt install ispell

> On what Operating System do you see the problem, and in which version of
Emacs?

Whatever comes with a Chromebook, plus the Gnu Linux that Debian provides.
As
Google says, 50 millions teachers and students using Chromebooks can't be
wrong.

I hope that the info below will tell you more than you ever wanted to know.
I understand not a word of it.

With Greatest Thanks and Highest Regards,

Bob

P. S.  This all comes from M-x report-emacs...

In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38,
cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2024-06-25, modified by Debian built on x86-conova-01
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12014000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

Configured using:
 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
 --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
 --with-native-compilation --with-cairo --with-x=yes
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/reproducible-path/emacs-28.2+1=.
 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall'
 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'

Configured features:
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mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils comp comp-cstr warnings rx cl-extra ispell
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inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting
cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process
native-compile emacs)

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P. P. S.

Here is my working directory:


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UoCT8YaisJBE-deMYJ8n1VE1rNg6K_MW?usp=drive_link

The file 0README.txt has more about me than you probably care to know.

My favorite quotation comes from Julian of Norwich. She was told: All manner
of thing shall be well. I hope and pray that she was well informed.

to take away the possibility of the vision of the divine essence by man is
to
take away happiness itself -- Aquinas

Therefore Mind thinks itself, if it is that which is best; and its thinking
is a thinking of thinking. -- Aristotle

To a first approximation, every computer in the world is connected with
every
other computer. -- Bob Morris, chief scientist of the National Computer
Security Center of the NSA

Is an explanation for the irrational support for Trump addiction or
stupidity?

Any piece of computer software is nothing but an integer. It is clearly
unconstitutional, under the First Amendment, for the US government to ban
the
publication of an integer.

For What It's Worth, the song that eventually ended the War in Vietnam:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY
Step out of line, the man come and take you away.

Whenever I send email, I imagine I am cc'ing the NYT.

If you have $16,777,216.00 in a bank account and add a dollar, your account
may not grow! Wouldn't that be against some law? Proof by SBCL:
(defparameter y 16777216.0)
(equal y (+ y 1))  => T

I used to wonder how the German people, and so many others, ignored the
Holocaust. Now I know. Thanks to Google, etc., now everybody knows, but too
few care. Step out of line, the man come and take you away.

If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly. -- Shakespeare

Building 7 Collapse Video:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/4BS7J6KQHz97

Believe that a person may be paid to do anything legal? Not so. It is
illegal
to pay someone to register or to vote.

The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell
of
heaven ― John Milton, Paradise Lost

And malt does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
Ale, man, ale's the stuff to drink
For fellows whom it hurts to think:
Look into the pewter pot
To see the world as the world's not.
  -- A. E. Houseman

δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν. Those being
preeminent achieve what is possible and the weak acquiesce to it. --
Thucydides, 'Melian Dialogue', book 5, chapter 89, History of the
Peloponnesian War

Most important perhaps are the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule, and two
phrases from the Delphic Oracle: 1. Know Thyself -- γνῶθι σεαυτόν 2. Give a
pledge and trouble is at hand -- Ἐγγύα πάρα δ' Ἄτα

"whoever enters the White House, even with good intentions to safeguard the
peoples' interest, is no more than a train operator. His only task is to
keep
the train on the tracks that are laid down by the lobbyists in New York and
Washington to serve their interests first" -- Guess who wrote that.

What's done in the dark will be brought to the light,
Go tell that long-tongued liar, God's gonna cut him down -- Johnny Cash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJlN9jdQFSc

Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose. -- Kris Kristofferson
sung by Janis Joplin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfjon-ZTqzU

Κύριε, ἐλέησον
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI3_-SpgR-s

He was essentially telling the Senators that he, as head of the CIA,
understood that he had been working for the Crown, and not the Constitution.
-- Sy Hersh

If P, then P. If any number is prime, then any number is prime. If any law
is
unconstitutional, then any law is unconstitutional. -- Bob Boyer,
robertstephenboyer@gmail.com

The Nqthm file 'proveall.lisp' in infix:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2yFYLn0Spf1ajY5OHFyQ0J4YTg/view?usp=drive_link&resourcekey=0-vwIVZLWV1rtrG7TQDXEz_g

American legislators often 'reserve' the right to revise and extend their
remarks. May all of us? Imagine you are sitting down to be sworn in to give
testimony and you say to the judge "I will say nothing more unless you agree
that I have the right to revise and extend my remarks. I am so feeble, my
speech is unreliable."

My current Amazon favorites playlist:
 https://music.amazon.com/my/playlists/dad45690-f817-458f-85fe-29c51ff109c4

All that you have is your soul -- Tracy Chapman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoNtYC_XDC8

... and if we tell them that, unless they depart from their `cleverness,'
the
blessed place that is pure of all things evil will not receive them after
death, and here on earth they will always live the life like themselves --
evil men associating with evil -- when they hear this, they will be so
confident in their unscrupulous cleverness that they will think our words
the
talk of fools. -- Plato, Theaetetus

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 1:13 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 23:34:52 -0600
> >
> > ispell-buffer breaks on
> >
> > ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya
>
> Breaks how?
>
> Please tell more details about the problem, so we could investigate it
> and attempt to fix it whatever needs fixing.
>
> Specifically, we need to know the following:
>
>  . in what language is the above text written?
>  . what spell-checking program do you use as the back-end for
>    ispell-buffer? is it Aspell, Hunspell, Enchant, something else?
>  . what dictionary for the above language do you have installed, and
>    where can that dictionary be obtained?
>  . what are the signs of "breakage" of ispell-buffer for the above
>    text? please post any error messages or other indications of
>    problems that you observe when you invoke ispell-buffer on that
>    text
>  . on what Operating System do you see the problem, and in which
>    version of Emacs?
>
> Thanks.
>

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bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 04:17:11 -0600
> Cc: 74469@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org
> 
> Perhaps I can answer a few of your questions, but Emacs, as always, answers the
> most. See far below.
> 
> Ispell-breaks on:
> 
>  ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya
> 
> > Breaks how?
> 
> Here is the error report I see:
> 
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Ispell misalignment: word ‘nam’ point 122; probabl...")
>   error("Ispell misalignment: word `%s' point %d; probably ..." "nam" 122)
>   ispell-process-line("^> ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya\n" nil)
>   ispell-region(1 5627)
>   ispell-buffer()
>   funcall-interactively(ispell-buffer)
>   command-execute(ispell-buffer record)
>   execute-extended-command(nil "ispell-buffer" "ispell-b")
>   funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "ispell-buffer" "ispell-b")
>   command-execute(execute-extended-command)
> 
> > Please tell more details about the problem, so we could investigate it
> > and attempt to fix it whatever needs fixing.
> 
> > Specifically, we need to know the following:
> 
> > in what language is the above text written?
> 
> I am not certain. 'Indian' is a sick response. Perhaps Tamil? Perhaps
> Sanskrit. My Guru, Kumar Saran (ramanahouston@outlook.com) can tell you
> precisely. I have cc'd him on this message.
> 
> > What spell-checking program do you use as the back-end for ispell-buffer?
> 
> I am as dumb as I rock. I have no idea. I use a Chromebook, I am sure. I get
> ispell with the single Debian Gnu Linux shell command:
> 
>    sudo apt install ispell

What is the value of ispell-program-name?  After you invoke
ispell-buffer for the first time in an Emacs session, type

  M-: ispell-program-name RET

and tell what it displays.  If it says your spell-checking program is
Ispell, then the above error message is expected: Ispell does not
support languages whose text cannot be encoded in single-byte
encoding, while the text you show needs something like UTF-8 to
encode.

Also, type this:

  M-: ispell-current-dictionary RET

and tell what it displays.

Thanks.

bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Robert Boyer]

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Dearest Eli,

> Ispell does not support languages whose text cannot be encoded in
single-byte encoding,

I am shocked!  See:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

ispell-program-name => "ispell"

ispell-current-dictionary => "american"

I would say that ispell has a bug that is so big that you cannot see that
it is a bug!  Should we call such a bug a
'continental bug'?

So sad, but still with very highest regards,

Bob



On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:47 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 04:17:11 -0600
> > Cc: 74469@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org
> >
> > Perhaps I can answer a few of your questions, but Emacs, as always,
> answers the
> > most. See far below.
> >
> > Ispell-breaks on:
> >
> >  ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya
> >
> > > Breaks how?
> >
> > Here is the error report I see:
> >
> > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Ispell misalignment: word ‘nam’
> point 122; probabl...")
> >   error("Ispell misalignment: word `%s' point %d; probably ..." "nam"
> 122)
> >   ispell-process-line("^> ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya\n"
> nil)
> >   ispell-region(1 5627)
> >   ispell-buffer()
> >   funcall-interactively(ispell-buffer)
> >   command-execute(ispell-buffer record)
> >   execute-extended-command(nil "ispell-buffer" "ispell-b")
> >   funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "ispell-buffer"
> "ispell-b")
> >   command-execute(execute-extended-command)
> >
> > > Please tell more details about the problem, so we could investigate it
> > > and attempt to fix it whatever needs fixing.
> >
> > > Specifically, we need to know the following:
> >
> > > in what language is the above text written?
> >
> > I am not certain. 'Indian' is a sick response. Perhaps Tamil? Perhaps
> > Sanskrit. My Guru, Kumar Saran (ramanahouston@outlook.com) can tell you
> > precisely. I have cc'd him on this message.
> >
> > > What spell-checking program do you use as the back-end for
> ispell-buffer?
> >
> > I am as dumb as I rock. I have no idea. I use a Chromebook, I am sure. I
> get
> > ispell with the single Debian Gnu Linux shell command:
> >
> >    sudo apt install ispell
>
> What is the value of ispell-program-name?  After you invoke
> ispell-buffer for the first time in an Emacs session, type
>
>   M-: ispell-program-name RET
>
> and tell what it displays.  If it says your spell-checking program is
> Ispell, then the above error message is expected: Ispell does not
> support languages whose text cannot be encoded in single-byte
> encoding, while the text you show needs something like UTF-8 to
> encode.
>
> Also, type this:
>
>   M-: ispell-current-dictionary RET
>
> and tell what it displays.
>
> Thanks.
>

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bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 06:08:18 -0600
> Cc: ramanahouston@outlook.com, 74469@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > Ispell does not support languages whose text cannot be encoded in single-byte encoding, 
> 
> I am shocked!  See:
> 
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
> 
> ispell-program-name => "ispell"
> 
> ispell-current-dictionary => "american"

Using the American English dictionary for spell-checking that language
is hardly useful.  You need to install a dictionary for the language
and the use "M-x ispell-change-dictionary" to switch to that
dictionary.  Only after that the use of ispell-buffer can be expected
to produce useful results.

> I would say that ispell has a bug that is so big that you cannot see that it is a bug!  Should we call such a bug
> a 
> 'continental bug'?

It's a known limitation of Ispell the program.  That program is
obsolete for many years, for that reason.

I suggest to install Hunspell or Aspell, together with the dictionary
for that language, and then Emacs will be able to spell-check this
text.

bug#74469: bug in ispell-buffer

[Robert Boyer]

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Dearest Eli,

ispell is so wonderful for what it does, obsolete or not.  Thanks so much
to all concerned.

Gmail/compose is hereby declared to be not only a great,  'free' grammar
error detector, but also a great replacement to ispell.  I recently used
Gmail/compose to find hundreds of typos in the sources for ACL2.

Gmail/compose has no trouble with:

   ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya

I did not have to install this-or-that.  Gmail is broadminded.

Try to catch up!  I realize that "free" means "nothin left to lose".

Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose. -- Kris Kristofferson
sung by Janis Joplin

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfjon-ZTqzU

Gmail is free.

Here rms and I disagree about what 'free' means, as we have previously
discussed.

With Highest Regards,

Bob


On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:47 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > From: Robert Boyer <robertstephenboyer@gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 04:17:11 -0600
> > Cc: 74469@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org
> >
> > Perhaps I can answer a few of your questions, but Emacs, as always,
answers the
> > most. See far below.
> >
> > Ispell-breaks on:
> >
> >  ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya
> >
> > > Breaks how?
> >
> > Here is the error report I see:
> >
> > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Ispell misalignment: word ‘nam’
point 122; probabl...")
> >   error("Ispell misalignment: word `%s' point %d; probably ..." "nam"
122)
> >   ispell-process-line("^> ōm namō bhagavatē śrī aruṇācala ramaṇāya\n"
nil)
> >   ispell-region(1 5627)
> >   ispell-buffer()
> >   funcall-interactively(ispell-buffer)
> >   command-execute(ispell-buffer record)
> >   execute-extended-command(nil "ispell-buffer" "ispell-b")
> >   funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "ispell-buffer"
"ispell-b")
> >   command-execute(execute-extended-command)
> >
> > > Please tell more details about the problem, so we could investigate it
> > > and attempt to fix it whatever needs fixing.
> >
> > > Specifically, we need to know the following:
> >
> > > in what language is the above text written?
> >
> > I am not certain. 'Indian' is a sick response. Perhaps Tamil? Perhaps
> > Sanskrit. My Guru, Kumar Saran (ramanahouston@outlook.com) can tell you
> > precisely. I have cc'd him on this message.
> >
> > > What spell-checking program do you use as the back-end for
ispell-buffer?
> >
> > I am as dumb as I rock. I have no idea. I use a Chromebook, I am sure.
I get
> > ispell with the single Debian Gnu Linux shell command:
> >
> >    sudo apt install ispell
>
> What is the value of ispell-program-name?  After you invoke
> ispell-buffer for the first time in an Emacs session, type
>
>   M-: ispell-program-name RET
>
> and tell what it displays.  If it says your spell-checking program is
> Ispell, then the above error message is expected: Ispell does not
> support languages whose text cannot be encoded in single-byte
> encoding, while the text you show needs something like UTF-8 to
> encode.
>
> Also, type this:
>
>   M-: ispell-current-dictionary RET
>
> and tell what it displays.
>
> Thanks.

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