From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#74673: 30.0.92; face warning on legal elisp syntax Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 21:04:51 +0200 Message-ID: <86a5d0zprg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <874j3kfvq8.fsf@librehacker.com> <86h67k1tfq.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmggefrd.fsf@librehacker.com> <86frn41rqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87ldwwebn0.fsf@librehacker.com> <86ser1kyiy.fsf@gnu.org> <871pycbyy6.fsf@librehacker.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33592"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 74673@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Christopher Howard Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 12 20:06:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tLoW5-0008Zg-6u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:05:09 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLoUh-0007h4-FI; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 14:05:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=INcB4oSzWz9yLBdhUAy1O4VGTK+f+EVMUqsUQvB0kYE=; b=C9+ONiFxTRxM gCb5P5gM54m+daaqVISgSy/HVyW88lq3k0QMcmsPTQFG6Z4QBuybE1Mw4gr8IK91s5qiGekiOlOGT Qp9V1Bv76LRJKcpRCKWrWTbHlU1V5m1N9QDwK2QpPUKenzcMf9IXQGFb8QdPZ/nRGVXfLlgVi7lcB LSQXXi5OQRwi3s2Z7gTp5hajqoysfiafWpkkJiX87th0vo70hAUrdXjgPTVmgTBRqri5yxD3wwqjE X9TIeDOpnJQgxIrenQP/UnOLTK1P3U9Zn9XM6IVc3d9EEmqSOH2ygb9yJnzOpONV5YFsTmgOUPbsy Lcse7TROmxu7UPLlAGG8Vg==; In-Reply-To: <871pycbyy6.fsf@librehacker.com> (message from Christopher Howard on Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:17 -0900) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:296941 Archived-At: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1] > autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no > From: Christopher Howard > Cc: rms@gnu.org, 74673@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:20:17 -0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > It turns out there is (since Emacs 22, no less): "C-h .". > > Hi, I just wanted to mention that display-local-help (C-h .) does not necessarily provide help that is useful to a user not using a mouse. E.g., in a Gnus Article buffer, if you move point over an attachment button (gnus-header-content face), and run display-local-help, it will tell you "mouse-2: toggle the MIME part; down-mouse-3: more options". A mouse user can right click and get a large menu of commands that can be applied to that MIME part. It is not the purpose of this command to replace the context menu. The purpose is to show either the button help (which is what you cite) or the help-echo text. > Maybe I am suppose to know how to send a down-mouse-3 without a mouse. I didn't mean to say that every mouse gesture in Emacs has an equivalent keyboard command, but in many cases you should be able to invoke the same command via M-x. In any case, what you describe now is not related to the original subject of this bug report. If you think every mouse gesture in Emacs should have a keyboard equivalent, please submit a separate feature-request bug report about that, because it will otherwise be lost in this bug. > Or perhaps there is another way to get that menu without a graphical pop-up. I'm interested to learn more. Look up the command that down-mouse-3 invokes there, then use "C-h w" to find its other bindings, if any.