From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Arne Babenhauserheide Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3540: reserve a key + inform other gnu package maintainers and mode-authors Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:02:30 +0100 Message-ID: <868vzeazeh.fsf@yahoo.de> References: <1244771200l.4854l.2l@mofo> Reply-To: arne_bab@yahoo.de NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293276212 10426 80.91.229.12 (25 Dec 2010 11:23:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 11:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: arne_bab@web.de To: 3540@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 25 12:23:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWSDc-0005f2-HO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:23:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44524 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PWSDb-0002DA-Qc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51402 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PWSDS-0002Bd-Ck for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PWSDQ-0000pT-JB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:14 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PWSDQ-0000pI-H9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:23:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRp4-0000mA-Fw; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <1244771200l.4854l.2l@mofo> Resent-From: Arne Babenhauserheide Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3540 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3540-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3540.12932746672960 (code B ref 3540); Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3540) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2010 10:57:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRoo-0000lg-VH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRom-0000lR-Ui for 3540@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:57:45 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp08.web.de ( [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AB01813BF4A for <3540@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:02:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [188.98.138.104] (helo=gentooxo) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.110 #2) id 1PWRtI-0004ES-00; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:02:24 +0100 X-Sender: arne_bab@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/qW729jmGZnoZPFUvnQAw6TfWFb9YGFodntNf+ E4vVuqE5W+2NRD3vUm+hTXYlpcru5PB6eMV35NiEGEgNBDqTl2 MbLSFrkn0= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:58:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42840 Archived-At: I=E2=80=99d love to see an officially reserved key, too (which emacs prom= ises to keep reserved), ideally a standard letter (which is also readily available on international keyboards). Any special character (like \) will prove problematic with international keyboards =E2=80=94 and even mo= re with alternate keyboard layouts. Naturally the problem with this is that no C- combination is free an= ymore=E2=80=A6 I think I=E2=80=99ll use C-o, because adding newlines behind the point ge= nerally only confuses me when I hit C-o by error, but I assume many people use it and would be angry to lose the command if it would be made the default reserved key=E2=80=A6=20 Another problem with C-o is that C-M-o runs split-current line which many people might use.=20 So selecting a reserved key might take some though - and ideally an emacs user-survey.=20 Best wishes,=20 Arne