From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63815: 29.0.91; Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 19:40:59 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <868rczxnhg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <83fs7benxo.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzwn4142.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <865y86wei4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86zg5hubal.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "63815@debbugs.gnu.org" <63815@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 04 19:02:47 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r7v-0005EH-JN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 19:02:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r7J-00076M-L8; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:02:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r7D-00075Z-Vb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r7C-0007qz-JF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r7C-0007vp-2O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 17:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63815.168589810030449 (code B ref 63815); Sun, 04 Jun 2023 17:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2023 17:01:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r6q-0007v1-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:01:40 -0400 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:51145) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r6n-0007un-No for 63815@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:01:38 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 545F0FF802; Sun, 4 Jun 2023 17:01:31 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:37:05 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262980 Archived-At: >> >> > I see. Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? >> >> > Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? >> >> >> >> Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: >> >> >> >> C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). >> >> >> >> It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. >> > >> > Is that `M-n' binding new for Emacs 30? I don't see it in the 29 >> > pretest (emacs -Q). Anyway, if an M-n binding has already been added >> > then (great) please close this bug. Thx. >> >> Sorry that the answer was unclear. This Help buffer showed help >> about the Info buffer. So M-n exists only in Info mode. >> But in Emacs 29 a new global binding 'C-x x n' was added >> to make 'clone-buffer' available in all modes. >> This makes 'M-n' in Info obsolete. > > Why would you say that (last sentence)? Because the new universal keybinding is available in all buffers. But I don't propose to remove 'M-n' in Info. > That we have a global binding for the command > doesn't mean we shouldn't also have an easier, > (and long-standing) local binding for it. > > The request of this bug is to add `M-n' for > `clone-buffer' to buffers in Help mode, in > addition to having it for buffers in Info mode. Sorry, I have no opinion about 'M-n' in Help. I just pointed out there is a new global keybinding 'C-x x n' that can be used in Help now.