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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
Cc: 74879@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#74879: 30.0.92; trusted-content-p and trusted-files cannot be used for non-file buffers
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 13:18:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868qshry7w.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jzc1dxk2.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> (message from Daniel Mendler on Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:56:29 +0100)

> From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
> Cc: 74879@debbugs.gnu.org,  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  stefankangas@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:56:29 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > What do you envision trusted-buffer-function should do in a buffer
> > that doesn't visit a file?
> 
> `trusted-buffer-function' should be a hook variable, which could be set
> to multiple functions, e.g., #'trusted--files-p and
> #'trusted--buffers-p. The function `trusted--files-p' would check the
> variable `trusted-files' similar to the existing code in the emacs-30
> branch.

I was asking specifically about the non file-visiting buffers.

> The function `trusted--buffers-p' could check another variable
> `trusted-buffers' which specifies a list of buffer name regexps or
> probably even better a `buffer-match-p' condition. This way the user
> could specify buffers which they consider safe, for example *scratch*.

Why would a buffer's name tell _anything_ about whether the user can
trust it?

> In the end it is up to the user how the variables are configured, as is
> already the case with `trusted-files'. The user must define which
> directories/files/buffers they consider safe.

If we wanted to let this completely up to the user, we wouldn't be
introducing this feature, certainly not so close to a release, would
we?

The question is serious: how do we envision this "trust" thing to work
with buffers that don't visit files?  If we are to change the code,
certainly on the emacs-30 branch, we need a solid solution which
provides more safety/security to users.  Adding a variable doesn't
solve a problem, it _adds_ a problem (how to populate the variable).





  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-15 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-15  0:39 bug#74879: 30.0.92; trusted-content-p and trusted-files cannot be used for non-file buffers Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 10:16 ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 10:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 10:56     ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 11:18       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-15 11:37         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 12:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 12:50             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 13:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-15 13:46             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-15 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 14:30   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-15 22:24     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 14:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-15 15:10     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 15:16       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-15 18:38   ` Daniel Mendler via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-15 22:41     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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