From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#37267: 27.0.50; Menus "About GNU" and "GNU and Freedom" to be made offline Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:12:19 +0200 Message-ID: <864l1vw7jw.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="184113"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: 37267@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 02 08:14:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1i4fbP-000lkt-1P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:14:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1i4fbN-0006Ep-Ec for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Internet is not available in majority of this world. Students in East Africa, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda, they use computers so often without any Internet connection. With the Emasc installed, they will simply miss to understand "About GNU" and "GNU and Freedom" titles as Internet is not opening. As that article is pretty much static, and Emacs being pretty much software for offline usage, I think that all menu items and such offline information shall stay offline. Within the offline page "About GNU" or "GNU and Freedom" one could place a link for the user to visit the online page if necessary. Thus keeping online links in the offline menu of Emacs editor is not appropriate, as it will not give information to those users without Internet. In GNU Emacs 27.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2019-08-31 built on protected.rcdrun.com Repository revision: 172b99a43ab60dac29eb09231246793a1ab32343 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000 System Description: Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. mwheel-scroll: End of buffer [3 times] mwheel-scroll: Beginning of buffer [2 times] Contacting host: www.gnu.org:443 uncompressing publicsuffix.txt.gz...done Mark set delete-backward-char: Text is read-only [2 times] user-error: Beginning of history; no preceding item Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/package/text/emacs-2019-08-31 --with-modules --without-gpm --with-x-toolkit=lucid PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/data1/protected/GNUstep/Library/Libraries/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' Configured features: XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort hashcash mail-extr emacsbug message dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg epg-config mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail jka-compr cl-extra help-mode gnutls network-stream url-http mail-parse rfc2231 url-gw nsm rmc url-cache url-auth eww easymenu mm-url gnus nnheader gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mail-utils wid-edit mm-util mail-prsvr thingatpt url-queue url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map url-vars mailcap shr text-property-search puny svg xml seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv dom format-spec time-date subr-x cl-loaddefs cl-lib browse-url tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 139046 8792) (symbols 48 9912 1) (strings 32 40188 2623) (string-bytes 1 1137589) (vectors 16 15715) (vector-slots 8 242378 10698) (floats 8 55 82) (intervals 56 16881 190) (buffers 992 14)) -- Thanks, Jean Louis