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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 69454@debbugs.gnu.org, eric.marsden@risk-engineering.org
Subject: bug#69454: Not possible to insert an empty vtable
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:37:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <864jd9b1da.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4afce38-24db-4932-b3de-b947dd805323@alphapapa.net> (message from Adam Porter on Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:57:20 -0500)

> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 14:57:20 -0500
> Cc: 69454@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
> 
> Hi Eli,
> 
>  > P.S. Adam, I took the liberty of adding you to this discussion, since
>  > you seem lately to be interested in vtable.
> 
> Thanks for adding me.  Indeed, I've found vtable to be very useful in my 
> new listen.el package.
> 
> On 3/9/24 02:54, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:29:11 +0100
> >> From: Eric Marsden <eric.marsden@risk-engineering.org>
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> The following generates an error. It seems to me that it would be
> >> preferable to insert the header line and show zero rows for the vtable.
> >>
> >>      (require 'vtable)
> >>      (make-vtable :columns '("tweedle" "dum") :objects (list))
> >>
> >> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-number-of-arguments #<subr max> 0)
> >>     max()
> >>     apply(max nil)
> >>     seq-max(nil)
> > 
> > I'm not sure we want to support zero-size vtables.  A better error
> > message would be nice, though.  What do others think?
> 
> I tend to agree with Eric that it would be helpful if vtable could 
> handle having an empty objects collection value to insert, because it 
> saves the application from having to wrap the rather large `make-vtable' 
> form in a `when' block, like here:
> 
> https://github.com/alphapapa/listen.el/blob/e9ea67350cf3b6cd870561c5e52d4b5255b04d34/listen-queue.el#L135
> 
> Also, it's possible that, after inserting a vtable, the collection of 
> objects may be modified so that the collection is empty--then if the the 
> vtable is reverted, it should be able to handle the case of the 
> collection being empty.
> 
> AFAICT there's not much the application could do to avoid errors in that 
> case, other than working outside of vtable's revert API and calling the 
> function that tested the collection and conditionally inserted the 
> vtable in the first place--in which case the vtable revert API would 
> seem useless.
> 
> So IMO, when inserting or reverting a vtable, vtable ought to check 
> whether the collection is empty; and if so, handle it gracefully, 
> meaning that an "empty vtable" (whatever that would mean; maybe just one 
> line of text saying that it's an empty collection) would still be 
> inserted, and that if the collection became non-nil, it could be 
> reverted and displayed properly.

Thanks.  Would you or Eric like to submit a patch along these lines?





  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-14  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-28 14:29 bug#69454: Not possible to insert an empty vtable Eric Marsden
2024-03-09  8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-11 19:57   ` Adam Porter
2024-03-14  9:37     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-03-16  0:14       ` Adam Porter
2024-04-30  9:10   ` Joost Kremers
2024-04-30 12:14     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]       ` <8f5fb814-5d88-4ad3-b12a-8246325d5d21@alphapapa.net>
2024-05-01 11:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02  7:31         ` Joost Kremers
2024-05-05 12:15     ` Joost Kremers
2024-05-30 21:40       ` Joost Kremers
2024-05-30 21:52         ` Joost Kremers
2024-05-31  5:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-31  6:54             ` Joost Kremers
2024-06-02 17:49               ` Adam Porter
2024-06-03 12:13                 ` Joost Kremers
2024-06-08 12:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii

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