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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
@ 2017-10-12  9:15 Mark Laws
  2017-10-12  9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mark Laws @ 2017-10-12  9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 28795


M-x set-language-environment UTF-8
M-: (insert #x2207)

Then hold down C-o until you have a bunch of empty lines, and start moving
around the buffer with the usual movement keys.  You will notice it is very,
very slow.  Then delete the character from the buffer, and notice how things are
fast again.

The issue doesn't seem to happen in the Linux console version of Emacs (even
with UTF-8 set).  It also does not happen in the Windows (NT) GUI version if the
language environment is set to something other than UTF-8.

I can reproduce this 100% of the time under emacs -Q with the instructions given above.



In GNU Emacs 25.2.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2017-04-30 built on HAYAI
Repository revision: d8cf7c798722e58aa4ebb9ecfcaa6724f905e18e
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.14393
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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
  2017-10-12  9:15 bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness Mark Laws
@ 2017-10-12  9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
       [not found]   ` <CADemMPPf-S8XpYJygf5DUYKB7txbHNtjNE+GJORtZLkZbsDkaQ@mail.gmail.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-10-12  9:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Laws; +Cc: 28795

> From: Mark Laws <mdl@60hz.org>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:15:53 +0900
> 
> M-x set-language-environment UTF-8

On Windows, doing this is a mistake (but not because it causes
sluggish redisplay).

> M-: (insert #x2207)
> 
> Then hold down C-o until you have a bunch of empty lines, and start moving
> around the buffer with the usual movement keys.  You will notice it is very,
> very slow.  Then delete the character from the buffer, and notice how things are
> fast again.

I cannot reproduce this here.  What font is used to display that
character?  You can find this out with "C-u C-x =" with the cursor on
the character.

On my system, I have the Symbola font installed, which is used for
displaying this character, and the problem doesn't happen.

As another thing to try, set inhibit-compacting-font-caches to a
non-nil value, and see if that helps.





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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
       [not found]   ` <CADemMPPf-S8XpYJygf5DUYKB7txbHNtjNE+GJORtZLkZbsDkaQ@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2017-10-12 10:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-10-12 10:31       ` Mark Laws
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-10-12 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Laws; +Cc: 28795

[Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]

> From: Mark Laws <mdl@60hz.org>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:40:25 +0900
> 
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >> From: Mark Laws <mdl@60hz.org>
> >> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 18:15:53 +0900
> >>
> >> M-x set-language-environment UTF-8
> >
> > On Windows, doing this is a mistake (but not because it causes
> > sluggish redisplay).
> 
> What is the correct way to use UTF-8 as the default encoding for
> things like file-visiting buffers without causing other potential
> problems?

Put this in your .emacs:

  (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8)

or even

  (setq-default buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8-dos)

(the latter doesn't affect process I/O).

> > I cannot reproduce this here.  What font is used to display that
> > character?  You can find this out with "C-u C-x =" with the cursor on
> > the character.
> 
> uniscribe:-outline-PragmataPro
> Mono-normal-normal-normal-mono-15-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-1 (#x8FC)

And which font is used if you don't set your language-environment to
UTF-8?

> If it doesn't work for you off the bat, do this after inserting the character:
> 
> M-: (put-text-property 1 2 'face font-lock-warning-face)
> 
> Then try moving around again.

Doesn't change anything here.

I do see slow redisplay on another system, where Symbola is not
installed, and the BatangChe font is then used.  But there I see slow
redisplay whether or not I set the language-environment to UTF-8.

> > On my system, I have the Symbola font installed, which is used for
> > displaying this character, and the problem doesn't happen.
> >
> > As another thing to try, set inhibit-compacting-font-caches to a
> > non-nil value, and see if that helps.
> 
> This seems to help

By "this" do you mean installing Symbola or setting
inhibit-compacting-font-caches non-nil?

> though the fact it only happens due to changes with encoding and/or
> font locking makes me suspicious.

It could be that the default language-environment causes a different
font to be used for that character.





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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
  2017-10-12 10:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-10-12 10:31       ` Mark Laws
  2017-10-12 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mark Laws @ 2017-10-12 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 28795

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> [Please keep the bug address on the CC list.]

Sorry, mashed the wrong key.

> And which font is used if you don't set your language-environment to
> UTF-8?

uniscribe:-outline-Malgun
Gothic-bold-normal-normal-sans-15-*-*-*-p-*-ksc5601.1987-0 (#xF7)

>> > As another thing to try, set inhibit-compacting-font-caches to a
>> > non-nil value, and see if that helps.
>>
>> This seems to help
>
> By "this" do you mean installing Symbola or setting
> inhibit-compacting-font-caches non-nil?

(setq inhibit-compacting-font-caches t) seems to help. I did not try Symbola.

>> though the fact it only happens due to changes with encoding and/or
>> font locking makes me suspicious.
>
> It could be that the default language-environment causes a different
> font to be used for that character.

If I use (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8), I do not get the slowness
anymore, even if inhibit-compacting-font-caches is nil, and even after
propertizing the text. However, the font changes from PragmataPro Mono
to Malgun Gothic, which seems odd too.

if I use both (set-locale-environment "English") and
(prefer-coding-system 'utf-8), the issue returns.

-- 
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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
  2017-10-12 10:31       ` Mark Laws
@ 2017-10-12 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
  2017-10-12 12:17           ` Mark Laws
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-10-12 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Laws; +Cc: 28795

> From: Mark Laws <mdl@60hz.org>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:31:57 +0900
> Cc: 28795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > And which font is used if you don't set your language-environment to
> > UTF-8?
> 
> uniscribe:-outline-Malgun
> Gothic-bold-normal-normal-sans-15-*-*-*-p-*-ksc5601.1987-0 (#xF7)

OK, so now we know why you get slow redisplay only with UTF-8 as
language-environment: doing that changes the preferred charset, which
affects font selection (Malgun Gothic is for the Korean character set,
as you see from the end of its spec, so it is rejected when the
preferred charset is unicode-bmp or Unicode).

> If I use (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8), I do not get the slowness
> anymore, even if inhibit-compacting-font-caches is nil, and even after
> propertizing the text. However, the font changes from PragmataPro Mono
> to Malgun Gothic, which seems odd too.

Why is that odd?  Emacs selects fonts according to what it thinks is
the user's preferences, and by default those preferences are deduced
from the culture defined in the environment.

> if I use both (set-locale-environment "English") and
> (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8), the issue returns.

"English" nowadays defaults to Unicode as well.

In general, there should be no reason for you to set a non-default
language-environment on Windows, because Emacs takes that from your
system's setup.  If you just want to control the default encodings,
use prefer-coding-system, its effect is limited to encodings, and
doesn't change anything else.

Is there any other problem left to solve, or we can close this bug
report?





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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
  2017-10-12 11:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-10-12 12:17           ` Mark Laws
  2017-10-12 12:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mark Laws @ 2017-10-12 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 28795

On 2017/10/12, at 20:55, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> Is there any other problem left to solve, or we can close this bug
> report?

Nope, we're good. Thanks as always for the help!





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* bug#28795: 25.2; UTF-8 language environment causes extreme sluggishness
  2017-10-12 12:17           ` Mark Laws
@ 2017-10-12 12:37             ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-10-12 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Laws; +Cc: 28795-done

> From: Mark Laws <mdl@60hz.org>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:17:47 +0900
> Cc: 28795@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> On 2017/10/12, at 20:55, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> > Is there any other problem left to solve, or we can close this bug
> > report?
> 
> Nope, we're good. Thanks as always for the help!

OK, you're welcome; closing.





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