From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 21:18:19 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <8635n2sy6c.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <83blnje5ro.fsf@gnu.org> <838sine4si.fsf@gnu.org> <837dy7e3wr.fsf@gnu.org> <-ZmNQQ07JD7L0I5EpXolv4t1UhWBGc4SN0dkJml3cLbBjO6ucAMUzAqsI9Ca69xO_hzlMLfaLs6bY9vq8GAR24RUGu1LZqVoVkXhiJcFgtg=@protonmail.com> <835zdre31u.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9lpluez.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <874koxwi1t.fsf@gnus.org> <86pmqa51cz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87bl1uojxd.fsf@gnus.org> <86czmakaem.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tufmnuz6.fsf@gnus.org> <86bl1uyt8f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87r1aocf5p.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13744"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 40774@debbugs.gnu.org, ndame@protonmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 08 20:30:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2eB-0003Lz-0Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 20:30:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37044 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2e9-0003Sy-7P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:30:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2df-0003RM-3v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58135) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2de-0003go-Rv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2de-0004MT-OE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2021 19:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40774.163899178116703 (code B ref 40774); Wed, 08 Dec 2021 19:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2021 19:29:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2dI-0004LL-OQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:29:41 -0500 Original-Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:51579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mv2dH-0004Kj-6W for 40774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2021 14:29:39 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2AEC200003; Wed, 8 Dec 2021 19:29:31 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87r1aocf5p.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 07 Dec 2021 21:51:14 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:221941 Archived-At: >> I can't find it on Github, and this is understandable - it's a new variable >> with quite limited usefulness. I hoped that even if someone used it, >> mentioning it in the Incompatible Lisp Changes of NEWS would be sufficient >> as in case of all other incompatible changes. > > OK; then I'm OK with changing the semantics in Emacs 29 (and noting this > in the NEWS in Emacs 28), but perhaps Eli has an opinion here. Eli? I even further reduced the incompatibilities by using new logic only on the value 't' returned by the function, instead of any non-nil value.