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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: 72570@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu
Subject: bug#72570: 31.0.50; Regression in date-to-time
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 18:36:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8634n8h1td.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ucymc7945@gentoo.org> (message from Ulrich Mueller on Tue, 13 Aug 2024 17:09:14 +0200)

> From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
> Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,  72570@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 17:09:14 +0200
> 
> >>>>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > The change which affected behavior that triggered this discussion was
> > done because evidently timezone-time-zone-from-absolute was deemed to
> > be too slow, and therefore the authors of the change wanted to avoid
> > it.  I'm okay with making the result of that change the de-facto
> > default, but then (a) we should document this change in NEWS including
> > the (trivial) way of getting back old behavior,
> 
> But what is the old behaviour? The one that is documented, or the actual
> behaviour of the code?

The former, IMO.  It was also the actual behavior until that commit
you found.

>   (format-time-string "%F %T" (date-to-time "2024-08-13 00:00:00"))
>   "2024-08-13 00:00:00"
> 
>   (format-time-string "%F %T" (date-to-time "2024-8-13 00:00:00"))
>   "2024-08-13 02:00:00"
> 
> In the first case, parse-time-string (inside the first condition-case)
> succeeds and it uses local time. In the second case with a slightly
> malformed date, it takes the detour via timezone-make-date-arpa-standard
> and uses UTC.

That's my point (b), I believe:

> > and (b) make sure that
> > the new behavior happens even if the body of this condition-case in
> > date-to-time:
> 
> >   (condition-case err
> >       (let ((parsed (parse-time-string date)))
> > 	(when (decoded-time-year parsed)
> > 	  (decoded-time-set-defaults parsed))
> > 	(encode-time parsed))
> 
> > does not signal an error.

> Also:
> 
>   (format-time-string "%F %T" (date-to-time "2024/08/13 00:00:00"))
>   "2024-01-08 00:00:00"
> 
> The GIGO principle at its finest. :) However, I'd much prefer if the
> function would check validity of the input and error out, rather than
> returning a nonsensical result. But maybe that's another issue and
> outside the scope of this bug report.

I indeed think it's a separate issue.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-11  8:57 bug#72570: 31.0.50; Regression in date-to-time Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12  7:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12  8:18   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 12:51   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12 13:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 13:48       ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-12 14:30         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-12 22:03   ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-13  5:55     ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-13 19:39       ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-13 21:11         ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-13 21:19           ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-14  8:12             ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-14 14:09             ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-15  3:27               ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-15  4:35                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-15  6:26                   ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-15  6:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15  7:18                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-15  7:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 11:15     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 15:09       ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-08-13 15:36         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-13 19:59       ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-14  8:37         ` Eli Zaretskii

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