From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: npostavs@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31339: 25.3.50; package-list-packages does not provide useful error when gnutls-cli is missing Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 16:02:58 -0400 Message-ID: <85zhnqw2a5.fsf@gmail.com> References: <836046qfe4.fsf@gnu.org> <877eauuouq.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="164506"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.92 (windows-nt) Cc: 31339@debbugs.gnu.org, Eric Hanchrow To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 13 22:04:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHBD-000gdT-Ns for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 22:04:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHBC-0007P0-Q5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:04:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHB6-0007Oj-Uw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:04:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHB5-0004tT-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:32828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHB4-0004t2-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHB3-0001e0-S0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: npostavs@gmail.com Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 20:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31339 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 31339-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31339.15577777896253 (code B ref 31339); Mon, 13 May 2019 20:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31339) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2019 20:03:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46372 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHAD-0001cm-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:03:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-it1-f194.google.com ([209.85.166.194]:52496) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hQHA9-0001cG-Jf for 31339@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 16:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-it1-f194.google.com with SMTP id q65so1186679itg.2 for <31339@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 13 May 2019 13:03:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ckuqo53Ta+yGT6bKVbI2befxB8RTX1uGp+DONllK7s4=; b=YOs6KHa0aZAoL/JwxAvNQtdobzTS0O3fR+0or+GmDFmUIQaqQIQpxDN0EEA5faPyrN bauiN8CMGZnxd+CB/IEQ1c37XQ7jeEC7NwzjT050mF2Trdf9F7gDMmRi785BeriOjTHG 6zE5EOWCuwLN/jYBjP+Ri71IysMzfvrbrpd+eRzSvkgG9aT+QzFmzrNaD1RnC7+gfRSx npB8LdpgyGrg/l35rhuP4f3OEnl3MY5dpDxi9aqzWnlv3Y9dp1dhGinOjcGoQMVDh7x1 +3j73J6ev0wWKXjpqE18ESyRP3tCfL+L1fuaO6lPbP+3BZM+LnTpJWyvl7HzElXzDuB3 txtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ckuqo53Ta+yGT6bKVbI2befxB8RTX1uGp+DONllK7s4=; b=lb4ActPqZHoVsBhZRDgspjJaTsQc9Zpz1cMUtU71GHrzB82w7iPbRKXDHDsx+XavXU QaTEYOD6Y9z0P6VUc00m4up6zurfT/e5hn+Qn5xiKQ8tAF/B0S/ql4b1ljU6KklPY4oN 0H1Mop5GnVCebSagJBZhjZwqrCSJykAmoS03OWoUhiZAVzeFywE40W9kuFy5io1Es7dC 85r5cenkcOc+FljPT8ftz6krfpNVLYEd/xLgvpHPNuU5YcxJqNvZrtH3303AwtacvLOg PrAZHHXpTQSnFiuPEAyhC+0SFlXik//R5Qqvo86YMBfaEHw9Y5kE/sOLmTIWIOeQD/oz NHMw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUUfGgmwEO6jiHN7rx6u11Tx5GnoeYNmj3neKvP5iAMTHKUcCWp hAlspMungEVlT3Ij4Wk7UpQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx5euyfxZhedRwpxZkIj7fY1qwa8zUr5E0qYUyZ/chl/4s6UVHLevjitI1IURSdfdv6VrBRQQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:660c:4c2:: with SMTP id v2mr739959itk.71.1557777779891; Mon, 13 May 2019 13:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from vhost2 (CPE001143542e1f-CMf81d0f809fa0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.230.51.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u11sm2871373iot.44.2019.05.13.13.02.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 13 May 2019 13:02:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877eauuouq.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 13 May 2019 15:38:21 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:159210 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Does an end-user who does not compile Emacs themselves receive any >> notification about avoiding tls.el? > > Hm... It's in lisp/obsolete. Note: it wasn't when Glenn posted that. See Bug#31457 "27.0.50; Move starttls.el and tls.el to lisp/obsolete/". > Does Emacs have a general method to warn > about requiring files in that directory? Emacs does warn about requiring files from obsolete. Users loading tls.el will now get this in *Messages*: Package tls is obsolete! It's not super visible though, opening a connection with tls.el produces several other messages too, so it looks something like this: Opening TLS connection to =A1=AEexample.com=A1=AF... Opening TLS connection with =A1=AEgnutls-cli --x509cafile /etc/ssl/cert= s/ca-certificates.crt -p 443 example.com=A1=AF... Package tls is obsolete! Opening TLS connection with =A1=AEgnutls-cli --x509cafile /etc/ssl/cert= s/ca-certificates.crt -p 443 example.com=A1=AF...done Opening TLS connection to =A1=AEexample.com=A1=AF...done