From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Noam Postavsky Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1111: describe-key's key notation display inconsistency Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:03:42 -0400 Message-ID: <85mugj3aqp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <06D80DE1-FCD6-45BB-B2D9-A968F797971C@xahlee.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="53737"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.92 (windows-nt) Cc: xah lee , 1111@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 08 18:04:09 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktc-000DoU-17 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 18:04:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53834 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvkta-0005Hm-VH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktW-0005FV-UN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktW-0004gy-3I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:32800) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktV-0004gl-W2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktV-00053W-M7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:04:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1111 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1111-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1111.156528023219418 (code B ref 1111); Thu, 08 Aug 2019 16:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2019 16:03:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktL-000537-W5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:03:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ot1-f53.google.com ([209.85.210.53]:41361) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hvktK-00052r-HN for 1111@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 12:03:50 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id o101so120656215ota.8 for <1111@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:03:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=jOiPc9cArC/2yfd+nkEmEYN9EcH2qge/xAbDZLvR1U8=; b=rwb+dEONL75fxtylNLiDSV16P64BBMfkenMn7vHjPWeBoiayIkDfWTiC67PcQvrfQy OR2t4xDYSdf0NW3dyqwYFO0G7JZivw3s/eCME7KZkbV/fSEl9nhUZ5xfY6A+Pflog5+T a6Rdot6yuRM6/d8hg0i5VqDcqko68oAmVin63hPUkupkdkTwgEvf8hWlXSs7mL9Ne4Z7 eBgoGJALKTMrdYn4yiPDPsxForwwJiS2LeJJkS3QyezGuIm+cRrRWu/RycdglfsiXuXz r+ESITch8r/ooIetPk9eDwWOoSIF+cda74UKhBu70t8yKFIfi3MiUvRZ5svjXbnyOs2p Mz3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=jOiPc9cArC/2yfd+nkEmEYN9EcH2qge/xAbDZLvR1U8=; b=Fvw5OQScinzmeCdfvIp1d8EjVxMo6xyjSW7MW8dKy3+CLWlOBaqUOioK827BAfUpuJ ljo06NU7S5/hy+MNN7CKxJqNw1+eYpEwgPo0MlEyrSooSlOm300qNKMmGZGFkbkxAPfC ZUjSDlnPBfv32JfIKRlpPCdAFTiKuaKYRy0NQSonneUC3pr+LV/lT9U9Cq92y0PNKPA7 J7CfMFJEoEzAXD8ptNyj18JMIUS0gpN2ajW4cmIzC8vBHYRlxfynyyygV8iR1btIhQ6Q MfTZFEid9rtk2zYgasupjE1C9ZyoBB3pr7YENBZdYIClznApWT94bstMVj764kLeaVMd z9vQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXEClDiDEsl4K1YirvxTEAii7bqGER+2M/WXNswNamwcBNOChaK 2nBKoLLRkJqj9VzoVPo8GaaEtDUy X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwPvDKas+ETftVofJ8zQ0hvdKq9OtTfYHFt4ZqAlTjBawdRb9K/koBc9+E0OQNvelf+cm9s/w== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:2b08:: with SMTP id r8mr14874150ior.34.1565280224641; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from vhost2 (CPE001143542e1f-CMf81d0f809fa0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.230.51.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e22sm1672659iog.2.2019.08.08.09.03.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 08 Aug 2019 09:03:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 8 Aug 2019 08:47:45 -0700 (PDT)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164772 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I've said before (not in this thread, most likely) > that I think that the Emacs manuals should use the > exact same notation that Emacs itself uses > interactively. > > That means the manuals should use , not > C-. But they don't. Having Emacs print C-, as suggested in the OP, would also solve the consistency, yes? I think it's a bit more readable, so I would be in favour of that. > --- > > FWIW, I've also argued that we do not need > angle-bracket notation at all. We can drop it and > still be completely unambiguous and consistent. That assumes all function key names are longer than one letter, right?