From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Jenkner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:31:42 +0200 Message-ID: <853841799t.fsf@iznogoud.viz> References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> <552D20B6.8030005@yandex.ru> <83mw2abul3.fsf@gnu.org> <552D34BC.4090806@yandex.ru> <83h9sibt0q.fsf@gnu.org> <552D7796.2090109@yandex.ru> <552D9204.3000604@yandex.ru> <552DC816.3030002@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429108351 10633 80.91.229.3 (15 Apr 2015 14:32:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 15 16:32:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOMQ-0008Bh-Cj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:32:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60792 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOMP-0007sP-D0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60423) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOML-0007sI-GI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:32:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOMF-000272-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:32:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOMF-00026x-2A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOME-00059Q-Jw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> Resent-From: Wolfgang Jenkner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20322.142910831319783 (code B ref 20322); Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2015 14:31:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOM4-000591-Ls for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:31:52 -0400 Original-Received: from b2bfep14.mx.upcmail.net ([62.179.121.59]:50591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOM2-00058g-2H for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: from edge11.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.81]) by b2bfep14.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.11 201-2260-151-128-20120928) with ESMTP id <20150415143143.OHSH11972.b2bfep14-int.chello.at@edge11.upcmail.net> for <20322@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:31:43 +0200 Original-Received: from iznogoud.viz ([91.119.82.61]) by edge11.upcmail.net with edge id GEXi1q00z1KP1rP0BEXi0u; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:31:43 +0200 X-SourceIP: 91.119.82.61 Original-Received: from wolfgang by iznogoud.viz with local (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1YiOLu-0000c9-Ak; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 16:31:42 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (berkeley-unix) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101550 Archived-At: On Wed, Apr 15 2015, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> If your indentation rules use an indentation step of 2, you'd likely get >> many more lines that start with SPC regardless of indent-tabs-mode >> (just because most lines of code are less indented than 8 columns). > > I don't actually recall seeing code intentionally mixing tabs and > spaces like that, ever, before looking at Emacs's sources. This is also the traditional (and POSIX) behaviour of vi. For example, search for "autoindent, ai" (without the quotes) in http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/ex.html