From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: nyc4bos@aol.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11205: 24.0.95; starttls-use-gnutls no longer being honored Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:05:09 -0400 Message-ID: <84y5nwyo1m.fsf@aol.com> References: <8462d9k9lr.fsf@aol.com> <847gxomgpf.fsf@aol.com> <7j4nsrtrc0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <84fwby88vo.fsf@aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339290403 11421 80.91.229.3 (10 Jun 2012 01:06:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11205@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 10 03:06:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWc5-0000pJ-SM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 03:06:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58839 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWc5-0002f0-JG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54877) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWc2-0002et-Nr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWbz-0000yP-3n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:06:38 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55011) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWby-0000yF-Tx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:06:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWeM-0004qk-3u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: nyc4bos@aol.com Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11205 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 11205-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11205.133929048318573 (code B ref 11205); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11205) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2012 01:08:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36324 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWdL-0004pA-6O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.206.40]:48613) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWdD-0004oy-Su for 11205@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:07:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.133]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5A15JQj009016; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from STATION03 (173-13-86-254-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.86.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 8B84DE0000FE; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:05:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 13 May 2012 21:21:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (windows-nt) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1339290319; bh=NEJfLcJF3075XZxdPZi/IQXDiR+mYE3Xa0QnAL7Bi4U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uJveEMnDgtcruB8hAYfwKzMOspRLJ++QIGkuwL5GOg1YhKM2rf5F/A9+S/Gpsfws5 dDoW/pAqbsUvieaYyMWmsBbfkTnQ2TCNuooetTOL5IHfy/+S+BGOSr8hl4gCfVS1EP V3Zynl+rQU6eT0Er12+NnJ/sN0BKfR9GmVTyHdUw= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:418185952:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33854fd3f2cf4dab X-AOL-IP: 173.13.86.254 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:60823 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > nyc4bos@aol.com writes: > >> Can you explain to me why should a user now jump through more hoops >> to use another program such as OpenSSL, in order to use TLS? > > `starttls-use-gnutls' controls what starttls.el does when starttls.el is > being used. starttls.el is not being used, by default, any more. So > this isn't a regression. The regression is that you can't prevent GnuTLS from being used and use OpenSSL if GnuTLS us installed. OK, I'll open up another bug report and not mention `starttls-use-gnutls' so that this can be fixed.