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WDYT? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This, of course, is merely polishing the workaround, the problem at its core remains unchanged. Though I am not yet privy to the inner working of Customize and its widgets, all of this seems to stem from some questionable decisions at `custom-variable-value-create'. As someone mentioned in one of the linked bug reports that the widget code is convoluted, I wonder, how well is this code understood? Or perhaps discussing its behavior is pointless, if nobody can truly understand what the consequences of righting these questionable decisions would be. --=-=-=--