From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Aberg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: Features: Scroll wheel/ball, right bar Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:01 +0100 Message-ID: <84E1FCA6-4927-43F1-B690-E9FBE34A6E37@math.su.se> References: <03D46CE0-E961-471E-94AD-1695873A00C8@math.su.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133983281 32035 80.91.229.2 (7 Dec 2005 19:21:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 07 20:21:13 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek4qj-0004V5-CD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:21:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek4qy-0007gD-LE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3ux-0004cX-Oo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:21:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3uw-0004c1-My for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3uw-0004bh-26 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [81.228.11.159] (helo=pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ek3vn-0003MX-JQ; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:22:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.250.192.74] (83.250.192.74) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as u83812478) id 4394B97C0009CB9D; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:21:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: Original-To: rms@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:14528 Archived-At: On 7 Dec 2005, at 18:06, Richard M. Stallman wrote: > Please try the development Emacs from CVS on savannah.gnu.org > and see if it handles this. It does have support for "mouse wheels". Yes, I will report this to Fink , which provided the emacs21 I am using. I think this Fink for Mac OS X (I use 10.4.3) is a very convenient install/deinstall system, that any causal user can use, which perhaps GNU should have a look at, to spread its software even further to users. It serves only as a complement to traditional UNIX installs, though. But I found it very good that I can quickly take down a binary automatically tailored to my computer to check the software out, then move ahead with compiling it myself within Fink if I so like, and then perhaps take down a latest or CVS version of the program for a traditional home directory or /usr/local/ installation. So I might try to compile the CVS version later -- CVS works just fine under Mac OS 10.4.3, and I had to do that with the Flex version of which only the CVS version would compile correctly under BSD. But Mac OS X support for X Window is not yet complete, which staves me off a bit. While at it, there is are also some Mac OS X/Emacs interaction issues, which may not belong to Emacs, but might be worth being aware of: The Mac OS X X11 xterm/uxterm versions support Mac OS X copy/ paste, which Emacs doesn't. One can get around this, by using X Window copy/paste into xterm/uxterm, but it is somewhat unnatural. Second, the Emacs Meta key and the Mac OS X Command key use the same keyboard clover key, with the latter having precedence over the former if both are in use. The Mac OS X does not have many Command keys, so clashes are relatively rare. But when it is happens, it is an inconvenience. One can get around this problem by turning off the Mac Command key, but again, this is not natural for Mac users. The question is though finding a more convenient workaround: Perhaps persuading Apple admitting left/right clover be mapped differently, to Command/Meta (I may drop them a note). Or perhaps some Emacs hack, in the wait, which might be long. :-) Hans Aberg